Virgin (Australia) Embraer 190 avionics
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Virgin (Australia) Embraer 190 avionics
Virgin (Australia) Embraer 190's haven't been able to fly some SIDs and STARs for the last 2.5 years. Apparently they aren't in the database, you'd think it would be an easy fix, can anyone explain what the specific problem is and what is being done to rectify the issue.
Is it just Australian airports that are affected?
Is it just Australian airports that are affected?
Virgin (Australia) Embraer 190's haven't been able to fly some SIDs and STARs for the last 2.5 years. Apparently they aren't in the database,
Apparently they aren't in the database
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Are you able to confirm that all SIDs for YSSY are included in the database, specifically:
RWY 34R ENTRA 3
RWY 34R MARUB 4 WOLLONGONG & RADAR
RWY 16L ABBEY 2
RWY 16L KEVIN 3 ENTRA & RADAR
RWY 16R KAMPI 1
RWY 16R DEENA 4 WOLLONGONG & KATOOMBA & RICHMOND
RWY 34L KATOOMBA 1
RWY 34L RICHMOND 2 RICHMOND & RADAR
RWY 07 FISHA 5 ENTRA & RADAR & WOLLONGONG
RWY 34R ENTRA 3
RWY 34R MARUB 4 WOLLONGONG & RADAR
RWY 16L ABBEY 2
RWY 16L KEVIN 3 ENTRA & RADAR
RWY 16R KAMPI 1
RWY 16R DEENA 4 WOLLONGONG & KATOOMBA & RICHMOND
RWY 34L KATOOMBA 1
RWY 34L RICHMOND 2 RICHMOND & RADAR
RWY 07 FISHA 5 ENTRA & RADAR & WOLLONGONG
Sorry Sunny, I'm not going to harrass my contact any further. Why not approach DJ Flt Ops? It could be memory capacity issue. The FMS does have limitations compared to real jets...
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Could it be a naming problem?
I have a vague recollection that, in some cases, with multiple procedures with the same name plus a differente suffix, we had to sellect the STAR first and them on a second menu sellect the appropiate complement, via the transition fix name or even the first fix on the STAR.
That arrangement meant that at first glance you would think something is missing, when it was only hidden.
Has bit a while since I flew her, though
I have a vague recollection that, in some cases, with multiple procedures with the same name plus a differente suffix, we had to sellect the STAR first and them on a second menu sellect the appropiate complement, via the transition fix name or even the first fix on the STAR.
That arrangement meant that at first glance you would think something is missing, when it was only hidden.
Has bit a while since I flew her, though
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It's been almost 5 years since I flew one but I seem to recall all those SIDS and stars being in there. In fact I don't ever recall not being able to locate one. The data base was the same as the 737 as far as the major port go anyway.
Broomstick has the right idea. It was all in the order you selected the runways, SIDS and stars. Get this out of sequence and half the list would magically disappear.
Broomstick has the right idea. It was all in the order you selected the runways, SIDS and stars. Get this out of sequence and half the list would magically disappear.
The Honeywell FMC in the ejet, which is integral to the epic system, has a bug with some coding associated with SIDS and stars.
The problem is NOT specific to Virgin, but all ejets.
Honeywell don't release epic updates very often and it often takes 3-4 years for a fix to be defined, tested, certified and delivered.
The problem is NOT specific to Virgin, but all ejets.
Honeywell don't release epic updates very often and it often takes 3-4 years for a fix to be defined, tested, certified and delivered.
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Snakecharma has it spot on. All the SIDS and STARS appear in the database, there is just a list that we can't fly because of the coding issues and the "misbehaviour" it would cause.
For Sydney, there's 4 SIDs that are included in the list.
For Sydney, there's 4 SIDs that are included in the list.
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@ Captn Bloggs. 'real jets...'? Why would the E-Jet not be a real jet? Mmo of .82, FL410 and it car carry 100 passengers in great comfort for 5hr flights. No performance limitations, fantastic ergonomics/economics and a joy to operate/be a passenger on. Far better than the 'real 737' I fly today...
So what's your defenition of a 'real jet'?
So what's your defenition of a 'real jet'?
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Honeywell don't release epic updates very often and it often takes 3-4 years for a fix to be defined, tested, certified and delivered.
All the SIDS and STARS appear in the database, there is just a list that we can't fly because of the coding issues and the "misbehaviour" it would cause.
Could I ask a couple of supplementary Q's?
1. when was the last release?
2. when is the next release scheduled?
3. does the release notes include a list of those things that are "fixed"?
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I know we're doing a new load at the present time at my airline, I don't know about others, and yes, there was a rather lengthy list of things that were fixed.
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I know we're doing a new load at the present time at my airline, I don't know about others, and yes, there was a rather lengthy list of things that were fixed.
You should have seen load 11 to 13 and load 13 to 15!
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So what's your defenition of a 'real jet'?
How's the VNAV work in the Jungle jets?
You push a button
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Sounds like real jet to me...
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