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Metro man, when I need an education in the meaning of the words I use, you will be the last one I turn to. I said that I believed the book had been updated, not that it was updated with every reprint. Read my posts before you give me your sneeringly critical and unwarranted advice.
The fact that I was wrong about the updates doesn't give you the right to criticize my use of words.
The fact that I was wrong about the updates doesn't give you the right to criticize my use of words.
Grow up, you were wrong, admit it and learn something. Anyone know how I can block this guy, he's becoming somewhat tedious ? It's rather tiresome having to read his rants and raves.
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You are, of course, quite correct, I had confused the two - an easy mistake to make.
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To answer the original Q: Firstly - why were you recommended to read this book? The CX interview perhaps, or just out of general interest?
Davies' book is a good read, but I found it to be like an old ATPL book. It says a little about a lot - most of it old news now, and covered by FCTMs and loads of other good books out there. Skimmed through it for the CX interview, but learned very little new from it. I also bought "FLYING the big jets" by mistake, which was a eeeehrm....rather dull and uninteresting book best suited for laymen I guess.
I recommend J.P Ternvigs book "Aerodynamics for airline pilots" (Sold through SAS/Oxford Aviation Academy I believe). Captain Ternvig specialises in air combat and medium/heavy jet aerodynamics. This is the ultimate read on the subject, and much more in-depth and interesting
My 2 small-value coins' worth...
Davies' book is a good read, but I found it to be like an old ATPL book. It says a little about a lot - most of it old news now, and covered by FCTMs and loads of other good books out there. Skimmed through it for the CX interview, but learned very little new from it. I also bought "FLYING the big jets" by mistake, which was a eeeehrm....rather dull and uninteresting book best suited for laymen I guess.
I recommend J.P Ternvigs book "Aerodynamics for airline pilots" (Sold through SAS/Oxford Aviation Academy I believe). Captain Ternvig specialises in air combat and medium/heavy jet aerodynamics. This is the ultimate read on the subject, and much more in-depth and interesting
My 2 small-value coins' worth...
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I have now bought the Davies book, got it off ebay for a song and arrived this morning. As I am not a pilot I bought it more out of interest than anything else. After I have had a look through it and sated my curiosity you are welcome to it if you think it still of interest to you. PM me if interested.
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Thanks, crossunder, for bringing the thread back on track .
The good, old "Handling the big...." was the right book at the right time when so many ex-prop jocks were simply scared stiff when they realized that their thrusty DC-6 was being replaced by a 707 not to mention a 747 a few years later.
The book is still very readable being well written, but for the professional pilot the finer details are not there. Another nice one from that era is "Aerodynamics for Naval Aviators" written for the carrier aces when the US Navy switched to jets in the 50th. It has been reprinted
"Aerodynamics for airline pilots" covers most of the mysteries surrounding multi-engine ops and was written to cover the JAA written exam on the subject. It is sold out, however, and has not been reprinted as far as I know.
Airbus Industries has a series of "Getting to grips with....." covering many aspects of professional aviation. I believe 6-8 books of which one is on jet performance. Coming from the "horse´s mouth" it explains how certification rules (JAR/FAR 25) infuence the aircraft design and the operation.
As one of the evils in our industry is the I-know-it-all Flight Instructor, Examiner, Chief Pilot etc. with a knowledge being way outdated , I strongly recommend that you try to get your hands on the Airbus version. It was written in Toulouse in 2000, so it is the most recent and valid if you are going to fly a modern jet.
Unless your company was smart enough to enclude the book(s) in the order for their new Airbusses, it is hard to get a hardcopy, as they are not for public sale (we are French, you know...). However, rumour has it that you can download a copied (Indian?) version from the web.
Can anyone help with any info on this??
Best of luck, turbo.
The good, old "Handling the big...." was the right book at the right time when so many ex-prop jocks were simply scared stiff when they realized that their thrusty DC-6 was being replaced by a 707 not to mention a 747 a few years later.
The book is still very readable being well written, but for the professional pilot the finer details are not there. Another nice one from that era is "Aerodynamics for Naval Aviators" written for the carrier aces when the US Navy switched to jets in the 50th. It has been reprinted
"Aerodynamics for airline pilots" covers most of the mysteries surrounding multi-engine ops and was written to cover the JAA written exam on the subject. It is sold out, however, and has not been reprinted as far as I know.
Airbus Industries has a series of "Getting to grips with....." covering many aspects of professional aviation. I believe 6-8 books of which one is on jet performance. Coming from the "horse´s mouth" it explains how certification rules (JAR/FAR 25) infuence the aircraft design and the operation.
As one of the evils in our industry is the I-know-it-all Flight Instructor, Examiner, Chief Pilot etc. with a knowledge being way outdated , I strongly recommend that you try to get your hands on the Airbus version. It was written in Toulouse in 2000, so it is the most recent and valid if you are going to fly a modern jet.
Unless your company was smart enough to enclude the book(s) in the order for their new Airbusses, it is hard to get a hardcopy, as they are not for public sale (we are French, you know...). However, rumour has it that you can download a copied (Indian?) version from the web.
Can anyone help with any info on this??
Best of luck, turbo.