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Guitarboy,
You started this thread with a legitimate beef. Barring a few, you got some good advice and even sympathy. Now you are lashing out. Toptup apologized to you and yet you lash back at him .Let me tell you that attitude does you, your countrymen and your country no favors. Aviation is a very small world,believe it or not. Be respectful of people on your way up because,most certainly, you will meet them on the way down.
Finally,not to revise history, but you talk as if India was great prior to the British rule.LOL.It was a fragmented, caste ridden,hierarchial (look up that word in google) society and that is why the Brits, the French, the Dutch and the Afghan invaders succeeded. Nothing has changed in 600 years and nothing will.So quit beating the India drum and believing the rubbish you read in the newspapers. By beating your chest all you are doing is alienating the rest of the world and,in aviation, that is professional suicide.
And, as someone suggested, if you really want to fly,join the IAF or the Coast Guard. Of course, to do that you need a set of cojones(google again) and a great attitude.
Alt3.
You started this thread with a legitimate beef. Barring a few, you got some good advice and even sympathy. Now you are lashing out. Toptup apologized to you and yet you lash back at him .Let me tell you that attitude does you, your countrymen and your country no favors. Aviation is a very small world,believe it or not. Be respectful of people on your way up because,most certainly, you will meet them on the way down.
Finally,not to revise history, but you talk as if India was great prior to the British rule.LOL.It was a fragmented, caste ridden,hierarchial (look up that word in google) society and that is why the Brits, the French, the Dutch and the Afghan invaders succeeded. Nothing has changed in 600 years and nothing will.So quit beating the India drum and believing the rubbish you read in the newspapers. By beating your chest all you are doing is alienating the rest of the world and,in aviation, that is professional suicide.
And, as someone suggested, if you really want to fly,join the IAF or the Coast Guard. Of course, to do that you need a set of cojones(google again) and a great attitude.
Alt3.
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God knows why this thread has been started in the first place..
This thread is a good example for complete misuse of an useful tool..
Instead of fighting around on professionalism and training standards I ask the fresh CPL holders to improve ways better equip themselves to be employable..
Dont complain you dont have a job. You ve always known a situation like this might arise. If you were wise you would have some how got yourself equipped to be employable in the industry in one way or the other..
Also now that this thread has been started I would ask you guys to find out ways and discuss with the experienced ones on ways you can survive through this scenario..
Also I ask you guys to refrain from going into political issues of a country and stick only to our industry..
Also when senior colleagues of our industry such as top tup post on this forum .. appreciate it ! They are here only to share views and opinion and are by no way profitted by arguing with you. I can see top tup has had a really bad experience on this side of the planet and i am sure he would be happier if things on our side start getting better !
We always welcome your thoughts skipper..
Bonne Landings !
This thread is a good example for complete misuse of an useful tool..
Instead of fighting around on professionalism and training standards I ask the fresh CPL holders to improve ways better equip themselves to be employable..
Dont complain you dont have a job. You ve always known a situation like this might arise. If you were wise you would have some how got yourself equipped to be employable in the industry in one way or the other..
Also now that this thread has been started I would ask you guys to find out ways and discuss with the experienced ones on ways you can survive through this scenario..
Also I ask you guys to refrain from going into political issues of a country and stick only to our industry..
Also when senior colleagues of our industry such as top tup post on this forum .. appreciate it ! They are here only to share views and opinion and are by no way profitted by arguing with you. I can see top tup has had a really bad experience on this side of the planet and i am sure he would be happier if things on our side start getting better !
We always welcome your thoughts skipper..
Bonne Landings !
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i would like to apologize to TOPTUP for my immature replies and comments. It was stupid of me to do so.
I do take all the advices seriously. i Will be knocking every door for a job, till i get a job will keep myself busy with the ATPL stuff.
Coast guard and IAF are great options to work with.
Thanks for your time and advices.
I do take all the advices seriously. i Will be knocking every door for a job, till i get a job will keep myself busy with the ATPL stuff.
Coast guard and IAF are great options to work with.
Thanks for your time and advices.
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House passes bill to toughen pilot training rules - News- msnbc.com
Hope the DGCA is watching and paying attention.Also, the airlines.
Alt3.
Hope the DGCA is watching and paying attention.Also, the airlines.
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well no disrespect but i hope the dgca is not watching....coz if u c it sayz that in order to fly with passengers u need to have an atpl...now common man...getting an atpl in india would be a great task...not to mention the extra expenditure.....who can afford such money!!!even the banks would refuse to give such loans....this is complete bull****!!!
its ok for america coz they have that part 61 which is the root cause for all this immature behaviour among the rookie cpl holders...they have no standard!!!
they need to improve that and not raise the minimums!!!!
bk999
its ok for america coz they have that part 61 which is the root cause for all this immature behaviour among the rookie cpl holders...they have no standard!!!
they need to improve that and not raise the minimums!!!!
bk999
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bk999,
No disrespect either but the standards and training process and licensing in the US are far ahead of anything remotely aviation in India. Also, General Aviation in the US is alive and well. It is under Part 91. Most "rookie" cpl holders build up time with that option and find their way to the Big Jumbo Jet in the sky. The big difference is, when they get there, they have the maturity and ability to actually fly that aircraft.
Nobody is suggesting getting an ATP privately. That would be foolish and no one does it,not even in the US.You would have to find avenues to build time.And, I suspect, if India had a robust GA culture, a lot of the "rookie" CPL holders you so disdain would be flying charters,ferries,cargo,canceleld checks or whatever.
Alt3.
No disrespect either but the standards and training process and licensing in the US are far ahead of anything remotely aviation in India. Also, General Aviation in the US is alive and well. It is under Part 91. Most "rookie" cpl holders build up time with that option and find their way to the Big Jumbo Jet in the sky. The big difference is, when they get there, they have the maturity and ability to actually fly that aircraft.
Nobody is suggesting getting an ATP privately. That would be foolish and no one does it,not even in the US.You would have to find avenues to build time.And, I suspect, if India had a robust GA culture, a lot of the "rookie" CPL holders you so disdain would be flying charters,ferries,cargo,canceleld checks or whatever.
Alt3.
