New Deal for New SQ Pilots
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New Deal for New SQ Pilots
Just heard a wonderful piece of news from my Lyin' City mole:
SQ, in their desperation to attract new crews on the 777 and 747, are offering new hires starting salaries of USD 14,000 per month. Present incumbents will remain on their present abysmal salaries and conditions. This, apparently, is management's way of giving a good hard kick in the goolies to their long suffering crews who had the effrontery to reject a pathetic pay offer. This could get interesting. A massive Cathay type sick-out is rumored. All the airline's flights could be grounded by the end of next month. Sorry I don't have any further details, but no doubt someone from SIN may be able to elaborate.
At last, the worm will turn.
SQ, in their desperation to attract new crews on the 777 and 747, are offering new hires starting salaries of USD 14,000 per month. Present incumbents will remain on their present abysmal salaries and conditions. This, apparently, is management's way of giving a good hard kick in the goolies to their long suffering crews who had the effrontery to reject a pathetic pay offer. This could get interesting. A massive Cathay type sick-out is rumored. All the airline's flights could be grounded by the end of next month. Sorry I don't have any further details, but no doubt someone from SIN may be able to elaborate.
At last, the worm will turn.
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This is not Hong Kong. A Cathay type sick-out would see us visiting the Changi Prison doctor. SIA is majority owned by the Government and they will do whatever is necessary to ensure the continuation of their healthy dividends. You tread very carefully here, strikes are illegal, any form of industrial action is illegal, even gatherings of over, I think, 6 people are illegal without prior Government approval.
As for the USD$14,000 pay, I think the previous post clarified that. April 1st was a while ago.
As for the USD$14,000 pay, I think the previous post clarified that. April 1st was a while ago.
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COJONES - As you well know, you are talking absolute bullsh*t, just who's fire and for why would you be stoking up this kind of nonsense?
Are you one of the internal agitators who have been intimidating our younger lads?
Time to backoff and smell the coffee I think.
Are you one of the internal agitators who have been intimidating our younger lads?
Time to backoff and smell the coffee I think.
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Addinfurnightem,
Sorry if I ruffled your feathers. I was just passing on some information I had received from a third party; unverified information, I must admit. I would have no desire to stir the s**t for anyone in any airline. It would be interesting if it had been true!! Maybe could have led to big pay rises all round.
And, no, I have nothing to do with SIA. I was there in the good old days (probably before your time)but am now retired.
You'll probably notice that I don't post too many topics - many, many fewer than you - so I'm not permanently full of wind and p**s!
(Not that I am suggesting that you are!)
Regards to all in SQ,
Sorry if I ruffled your feathers. I was just passing on some information I had received from a third party; unverified information, I must admit. I would have no desire to stir the s**t for anyone in any airline. It would be interesting if it had been true!! Maybe could have led to big pay rises all round.
And, no, I have nothing to do with SIA. I was there in the good old days (probably before your time)but am now retired.
You'll probably notice that I don't post too many topics - many, many fewer than you - so I'm not permanently full of wind and p**s!
(Not that I am suggesting that you are!)
Regards to all in SQ,
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^Hi everybody.- Until last week, I was quite interested to join SQ, but I got some doubts after reading some comments. Would like to know some more details, before participating in the interviews for A340. Is there anyone who can tell anything positive about SQ? Thanks.
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No Lee, I still party once in a while with the Singapore girls when in YVR, SFO and LAX.
However there is always JAL, CX, etc, they are pretty good party crowd also.
I must tell you though, the quality of the Singapore girl is hitting hawker center quality. Slim pickings I guess, the word has gotten around, nobody wants the job.
However there is always JAL, CX, etc, they are pretty good party crowd also.
I must tell you though, the quality of the Singapore girl is hitting hawker center quality. Slim pickings I guess, the word has gotten around, nobody wants the job.
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Hmmm, do I detect perhaps a certain trend to your off-topic postings, Lee? I'm starting my stopwatch now on every new thread just waiting for the Errol Flynn of Singapore Airlines to arrive. 
Is there something you want us all to know, maybe? Or at least think?
Now, what was this one about again......?
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Is there something you want us all to know, maybe? Or at least think?
Now, what was this one about again......?
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Dear Carrilo,
If you are happy in your present job and wants remain happy in rest of your lif then don't ever think of making this kind of mistake like joining SQ. Yeap if you want mess up your rest of the life, your are most welcome. Here neither the money is good nor the work culture. I can't say for sure weather you will be happy here or not but i can certainly say that you will regret your decision to come here, like many others do and you will not be able to leave even if you wanted later on. Most of us here have no choice and to say are as happy as pig in sh*t.
All the very best
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Hey,
I think all the commotion regarding SQ is only BASED on expats. I find that the locals won't complain about SQ negative side if any !
I've got relatives in SQ and they don't complain ! I think the BEST advice, Take it or Leave it and don't go on back biting !
If SQ really sucks, I don't think they will be rated as one of the Best Airlines in the World ! I think the people who keep on complaining about SQ are just sourgrapes !!
This is based on my personal opinion and if you choose to bombard me, I don't give a **** ! Freedom of speech
BUT, do correct me if I'm wrong !!
Cheers,
Herman
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I think all the commotion regarding SQ is only BASED on expats. I find that the locals won't complain about SQ negative side if any !
I've got relatives in SQ and they don't complain ! I think the BEST advice, Take it or Leave it and don't go on back biting !
If SQ really sucks, I don't think they will be rated as one of the Best Airlines in the World ! I think the people who keep on complaining about SQ are just sourgrapes !!
This is based on my personal opinion and if you choose to bombard me, I don't give a **** ! Freedom of speech
BUT, do correct me if I'm wrong !!
Cheers,
Herman
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Hermie,
The locals in SQ (or anywhere in Singapore, for that matter) don't complain because you have been conditioned from an early age to never question the Government line, never question authority and to never think for yourself. I'm sorry, but this is a sad fact of life in Singapore and I'm sure many Singaporeans will agree with me there.
Unfortunately, this type of mindset may have dire consequences in an aviation safety context where CRM is concerned. (This issue has been raised elsewhere on Pprune in relation to SQ 006 so I won't repeat it here.)
As for the Best Airline in the World , well, one thing I can say is that SQ probably has the best PR department in the world. Judge for yourself, dude ... you don't have to always take these kind of PR statements at face value. Listen to what other people have to say, and weigh this up with your own expereince and judge for yourself. ... Just some friendly advice to the locals who have been bombarded with Government propaganda all their lives
Cheers
The locals in SQ (or anywhere in Singapore, for that matter) don't complain because you have been conditioned from an early age to never question the Government line, never question authority and to never think for yourself. I'm sorry, but this is a sad fact of life in Singapore and I'm sure many Singaporeans will agree with me there.
Unfortunately, this type of mindset may have dire consequences in an aviation safety context where CRM is concerned. (This issue has been raised elsewhere on Pprune in relation to SQ 006 so I won't repeat it here.)
As for the Best Airline in the World , well, one thing I can say is that SQ probably has the best PR department in the world. Judge for yourself, dude ... you don't have to always take these kind of PR statements at face value. Listen to what other people have to say, and weigh this up with your own expereince and judge for yourself. ... Just some friendly advice to the locals who have been bombarded with Government propaganda all their lives
Cheers
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Anito,
Thanx for the information. What you have said is very true ! We are taught to NEVER question the goverment on how they choose to govern this country !
Although I have chose to question the goverment and many other things, they will never entertain our comments and views over matters like this, eg: SQ Pay, Recruitment Policy and many more !
Therefore it will be useless to 'wage a war' against them as we know they will never back down UNLESS we go on STRIKE ! Look at Pilots in other countries (Delta, Northwest) they go on strike so they can be heard ! If we(All the Pilots in SQ) choose to do that, they will have no choice but to reconsider certain issues. Once again, we are told that if we go on strike we WILL get jail ! So its really up to them(SQ Pilots).
Thanx, Anito for the information. Hopefully someone out there can do something .....Thanx for your email regarding MFA too !!
Once again, Do correct me if I'm wrong !
Best Regards,
Herman
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Thanx for the information. What you have said is very true ! We are taught to NEVER question the goverment on how they choose to govern this country !
Although I have chose to question the goverment and many other things, they will never entertain our comments and views over matters like this, eg: SQ Pay, Recruitment Policy and many more !
Therefore it will be useless to 'wage a war' against them as we know they will never back down UNLESS we go on STRIKE ! Look at Pilots in other countries (Delta, Northwest) they go on strike so they can be heard ! If we(All the Pilots in SQ) choose to do that, they will have no choice but to reconsider certain issues. Once again, we are told that if we go on strike we WILL get jail ! So its really up to them(SQ Pilots).
Thanx, Anito for the information. Hopefully someone out there can do something .....Thanx for your email regarding MFA too !!
Once again, Do correct me if I'm wrong !
Best Regards,
Herman
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