New Deal for New SQ Pilots
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Informative entertainment perhaps, Glad - and "yes" I did get what I wanted from SQ, and just as you believe YOU have the right to post AGAINST SQ, as a disgruntled employee, I likewise have the right to tell others that SQ is not the big, bad bogeyman you make them out to be. There are other (major) airlines who literally flaunt contracted conditions, and even with recruiting agencies (such as PARC) simply snub their noses when brought to their attention. I had NO such experience during my employment with SIA, and although certain individuals on the staff made it hard (at times) for the expats, overall, I enjoyed the experience.
Asia, as westernised as the dress of the people and surrounds appears, has a different psyche to the non-Asian. Westerners will speak forthrightly - saying exactly what is at the forefront of their thinking, whereas the Asian will not, but will allude to the subject hoping you will be able to pick up on it. Culture differences, Glad, just as there are differences between Irani's, Iraqi's, Brits, and Yanks. I'm not saying by any means, that I understand it completely, BUT I don't try to change them to my accustomed way of thinking.
A little understanding, and a lot of tolerance - on both sides!
Asia, as westernised as the dress of the people and surrounds appears, has a different psyche to the non-Asian. Westerners will speak forthrightly - saying exactly what is at the forefront of their thinking, whereas the Asian will not, but will allude to the subject hoping you will be able to pick up on it. Culture differences, Glad, just as there are differences between Irani's, Iraqi's, Brits, and Yanks. I'm not saying by any means, that I understand it completely, BUT I don't try to change them to my accustomed way of thinking.
A little understanding, and a lot of tolerance - on both sides!
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In regards to Singapore and SIA, there are more my kind (the word disgruntled would better apply if I was dimissed, since I (we) dumped the employer, disgruntled employer would be more accurate) than your kind Kaptin M. That makes us the MAJORITY.
For every SIA employer (cabin, engineering, office, etc.) that agrees with you, 99 agree with me.
We have had these discussions many times before Kaptin M. Beating a dead horse does not amuze me even though you get a kick out of it.
You are now on your own.
For every SIA employer (cabin, engineering, office, etc.) that agrees with you, 99 agree with me.
We have had these discussions many times before Kaptin M. Beating a dead horse does not amuze me even though you get a kick out of it.
You are now on your own.
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More of Gladiator's "facts" that are easily uncovered for the cheap, sensationalist value he thrives on, trying to gain attention.
"For every SIA employer (cabin, engineering, office, etc.) that agrees with you, 99 agree with me.
If that were the case, 99% of the SQ employees' posts here on PPRuNe would agree with your point of view, Glad. FACT is - they DON'T. The group to whom you constantly make reference, were some of those other First Officers [like yourself], who believed they could "fast-track" their career progressions by leaving SIA. Care to admit to that one - of course NOT. Other F/O's, with far more experience than you have - even now - opted for the mutually agreed upon contractual conditions, and took the honorable course.
"For every SIA employer (cabin, engineering, office, etc.) that agrees with you, 99 agree with me.
If that were the case, 99% of the SQ employees' posts here on PPRuNe would agree with your point of view, Glad. FACT is - they DON'T. The group to whom you constantly make reference, were some of those other First Officers [like yourself], who believed they could "fast-track" their career progressions by leaving SIA. Care to admit to that one - of course NOT. Other F/O's, with far more experience than you have - even now - opted for the mutually agreed upon contractual conditions, and took the honorable course.
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Kaptin M---
Would have to agree with your views regarding the local guys at SQ. In my 4 years there only a very few locals had complaints. The pay was not the best but the airline was expanding at a rapid rate and their prospects looked good. Ran into one of my former F/O's on the 707 last year in ZRH, he is now a 747-400 skipper and said altho it is not as "freindly" a company as in the past, considering the problems at other asian carriers, he thought he had the best deal. Some of the ex-pat F/O's who joined in the early 90's were a real pain, in his opinion. Think he may have been right.
Would have to agree with your views regarding the local guys at SQ. In my 4 years there only a very few locals had complaints. The pay was not the best but the airline was expanding at a rapid rate and their prospects looked good. Ran into one of my former F/O's on the 707 last year in ZRH, he is now a 747-400 skipper and said altho it is not as "freindly" a company as in the past, considering the problems at other asian carriers, he thought he had the best deal. Some of the ex-pat F/O's who joined in the early 90's were a real pain, in his opinion. Think he may have been right.
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Slightly O/T
Gladiator you recently wrote:
"My children do not have to urinate in their clothing at school as is expected in the Singapore school system, your children have to avoid drinking water at school."
Is this a new course in schools- PEEING 101?
Although I do not live in Singapore now but most of my family still live there, I have not heard of this phenomenon.
Gladiator you recently wrote:
"My children do not have to urinate in their clothing at school as is expected in the Singapore school system, your children have to avoid drinking water at school."
Is this a new course in schools- PEEING 101?
Although I do not live in Singapore now but most of my family still live there, I have not heard of this phenomenon.
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The source? The pilots, cabin crew, etc.
If one were to study the numbers, the following conclusion would be reached,
1) Most unhappy employees.
2) Most underpaid.
3) Most overworked.
4) Most resignations.
5) Most complaints about employer on PPRuNe.
6) Most feel cheated.
I am sure many others can add to this list.
If one were to study the numbers, the following conclusion would be reached,
1) Most unhappy employees.
2) Most underpaid.
3) Most overworked.
4) Most resignations.
5) Most complaints about employer on PPRuNe.
6) Most feel cheated.
I am sure many others can add to this list.
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Gladiator,
Did you do a survey of the all the SQ staff before coming up with the 99% figure? Bet you pluck it out from thin air. There some unhappy crews but you get that in many other airlines that I know, but what I do not know is whether it's disproportionally high at SQ. With the conclusion of CA and the 6.04 months bonus, that number should reduce.
Did you do a survey of the all the SQ staff before coming up with the 99% figure? Bet you pluck it out from thin air. There some unhappy crews but you get that in many other airlines that I know, but what I do not know is whether it's disproportionally high at SQ. With the conclusion of CA and the 6.04 months bonus, that number should reduce.
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Gladiator's EXPERT opinions are based on his experiences gained working for...[i]how many airlines, Glad?...4, or 5 - perhaps 3? No 2 - total airline employers TWO...2.
I particularly liked this gem, "You want to change the system, have balls and make the change when it is time to vote.
Reformasi is in your hands.
What happened when Our Glad didn't like the system in SQ? Did the Gladiator have the balls to stand and fight? Don't be silly - he ran away...absconded to the good ol' US of A, from where he now urges those who have remained to "resist the evil Singapore, LKY, and the wicked school teachers."
The transcripts of the court proceedings were perhaps of some value to some, Glad, and at least factual, but your freelance writing is erroneous, and highly speculative - to say the least..."Yes obviously 99% is exaggerated, however easily above 50%." Really?! BUNKUM!!
I particularly liked this gem, "You want to change the system, have balls and make the change when it is time to vote.
Reformasi is in your hands.
What happened when Our Glad didn't like the system in SQ? Did the Gladiator have the balls to stand and fight? Don't be silly - he ran away...absconded to the good ol' US of A, from where he now urges those who have remained to "resist the evil Singapore, LKY, and the wicked school teachers."
The transcripts of the court proceedings were perhaps of some value to some, Glad, and at least factual, but your freelance writing is erroneous, and highly speculative - to say the least..."Yes obviously 99% is exaggerated, however easily above 50%." Really?! BUNKUM!!