Thoughts from an almost SIA pilot
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Thoughts from an almost SIA pilot
Dear Gladiator,
I wish to express my sincere gratitude and
appreciation to you from the bottom of my heart for making your postings on pprune.
I am one of the latest victims of the most vicious and nastiest airlines in the world, SIA. I am a XXX Citizen, born in XXX but lived in XXX for 24 years, now XX, ATPL, X,XXXTT, BXXX FO & FE, B.Sc. in XXX.
I got married to a beautiful girl here in Singapore in XXX 99 after a long courtship. I was a XXX instructor for XXX at the time, and had flown with XXX.
It was only after my marriage that a relative who was friends with some SIA staff (Capt. XXX and XXX)offered to help me get a Pilot slot with SIA. I was told that if I could get my PR on my own then I would be a shoe in for the Cadet Pilot Program.
Once I got my PR and applied and was advised a interview was forthcoming I sold my car, gave up my apartment, quit my job and entered Singapore on XXX, 2000.
My first Interview with Ms. Doreen Yap and Capt. McCully went well. A month later I took the aptitude test and passed.
On XXX I had by final interview and tea party
where I was treated by these 4 chinese Pilot's as a so called worthless XXX. The interview was extremely brutal. I learned a week later that an XXX had recently flown a B747 to XXX and abandonded it and flown home.
Me and my wife would very much like to stay here in Singapore, there is not much for me in XXX. I sent a letter of appeal and that too was denied.
I think the world of what you write and I wish I found out about pprune.com before I came to Singapore and have waisted 4 months of my life and money.
If there is any advice you have for me, privately of course, please tell me.
Thank you,
XXX
I wish to express my sincere gratitude and
appreciation to you from the bottom of my heart for making your postings on pprune.
I am one of the latest victims of the most vicious and nastiest airlines in the world, SIA. I am a XXX Citizen, born in XXX but lived in XXX for 24 years, now XX, ATPL, X,XXXTT, BXXX FO & FE, B.Sc. in XXX.
I got married to a beautiful girl here in Singapore in XXX 99 after a long courtship. I was a XXX instructor for XXX at the time, and had flown with XXX.
It was only after my marriage that a relative who was friends with some SIA staff (Capt. XXX and XXX)offered to help me get a Pilot slot with SIA. I was told that if I could get my PR on my own then I would be a shoe in for the Cadet Pilot Program.
Once I got my PR and applied and was advised a interview was forthcoming I sold my car, gave up my apartment, quit my job and entered Singapore on XXX, 2000.
My first Interview with Ms. Doreen Yap and Capt. McCully went well. A month later I took the aptitude test and passed.
On XXX I had by final interview and tea party
where I was treated by these 4 chinese Pilot's as a so called worthless XXX. The interview was extremely brutal. I learned a week later that an XXX had recently flown a B747 to XXX and abandonded it and flown home.
Me and my wife would very much like to stay here in Singapore, there is not much for me in XXX. I sent a letter of appeal and that too was denied.
I think the world of what you write and I wish I found out about pprune.com before I came to Singapore and have waisted 4 months of my life and money.
If there is any advice you have for me, privately of course, please tell me.
Thank you,
XXX
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Dear Readers,
There are a lot of hidden stories of SIA recruiting processes. Their recruitment processes and merits are based on nepotism and cronyism. Recently, a guy got into their cadet program because his old man knows one of SIA directors.
SIA initially told those who attended the interviews that they don't like Aussie Licences and ratings based of the fact that their system is the best in the world, as always. However, the guy that got in has an Aussie licence!!!!!
Where are the justice for those are qualified and really want to become dedicated pilots???? I hope SIA management is reading this topic and especially their Chairman, Dr. Michael Fam!!!!! If u do dare, please reply to this so called abuse of power of ur staff!!!!
There are a lot of hidden stories of SIA recruiting processes. Their recruitment processes and merits are based on nepotism and cronyism. Recently, a guy got into their cadet program because his old man knows one of SIA directors.
SIA initially told those who attended the interviews that they don't like Aussie Licences and ratings based of the fact that their system is the best in the world, as always. However, the guy that got in has an Aussie licence!!!!!
Where are the justice for those are qualified and really want to become dedicated pilots???? I hope SIA management is reading this topic and especially their Chairman, Dr. Michael Fam!!!!! If u do dare, please reply to this so called abuse of power of ur staff!!!!
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Capt. PPRuNe has also had many e-mails to this effect thanking him for the creation and existance of PPRuNe.
I had a phone call a few days ago from a pilot that works for the same carrier as I.
He told me that he is being courted by Singapore Airlines and wants to try something different. He wanted my opinion.
To cut the story short, after a long discussion, he will not be wearing SIA wings on his uniform jacket. I have saved one more man from the wrath of SIA.
SIA management pukes know where I work and can read where the potential cadidates is presently employed.
Thank you Capt. PPRuNe.
I had a phone call a few days ago from a pilot that works for the same carrier as I.
He told me that he is being courted by Singapore Airlines and wants to try something different. He wanted my opinion.
To cut the story short, after a long discussion, he will not be wearing SIA wings on his uniform jacket. I have saved one more man from the wrath of SIA.
SIA management pukes know where I work and can read where the potential cadidates is presently employed.
Thank you Capt. PPRuNe.
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Lets not forget what this poor soul went through. Let SIA Pilot Recruitment process live in infamy. I beleive it was Mr. Theverajah at SIA Pilot Recruitment who encouraged him to get his Singapore Permanent Residence and apply for the Cadet Pilot Program. He went so far as to even encourage him to purchase an expensive type rating such as the B747, etc. when he called from XXX well before his interview.
Once the sad interview outcome was as above, it was Mr. Thevarajah that "signed" the letter of rejection. Of course, he is too much of a coward to ever admit it to anybody, SIA maangement dare ask him.
Once the sad interview outcome was as above, it was Mr. Thevarajah that "signed" the letter of rejection. Of course, he is too much of a coward to ever admit it to anybody, SIA maangement dare ask him.
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Gladiator
As a disgruntled ex first officer who is willing to abscond from bond and pay a hefty penalty because you were found unsuitable for command training , you are hardly in a position to give an unbias opinion .
You had your chance and blew it . Why deprive others
PILLOW, consider this a warning. I won't tolerate this type of troll for a reaction, understand? If you have something substantial to add, then do so, otherwise think before you post.
No direct responses to this one please, do it by e-mail if you must.
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As a disgruntled ex first officer who is willing to abscond from bond and pay a hefty penalty because you were found unsuitable for command training , you are hardly in a position to give an unbias opinion .
You had your chance and blew it . Why deprive others
PILLOW, consider this a warning. I won't tolerate this type of troll for a reaction, understand? If you have something substantial to add, then do so, otherwise think before you post.
No direct responses to this one please, do it by e-mail if you must.
Sick Squid
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Sick Squid:
Thankyou. It renews our confidence.
John:
Not a pleasant thing to say from one who should know a whole bunch better. You once flew the 747 but now fly a very old un-modded 727 doing the night shift, netting a quarter of what you use to, and living the type of life that we all have nightmares about.
People in stone houses shouldn't throw glass :]
Thankyou. It renews our confidence.
John:
Not a pleasant thing to say from one who should know a whole bunch better. You once flew the 747 but now fly a very old un-modded 727 doing the night shift, netting a quarter of what you use to, and living the type of life that we all have nightmares about.
People in stone houses shouldn't throw glass :]
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Sick Squid....appreciate your warning above to maintain some decorum in here. I knew Gladiator and Pillows comments are undeserved and unnessesary.
Well titan I have been thinking about the above question for a week and still nothing. Just give me some time please, maybe Christmas.
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Well titan I have been thinking about the above question for a week and still nothing. Just give me some time please, maybe Christmas.
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Dear xxx,
You are not the only one who has applied for an airline [any airline] job, and not been successful.
I'm sure that Capt xxx and xxx were well-intentioned, when they told you [what you hoped to hear] that you seemed to be suitable material for SQ.....unfortunately, there ARE no guarantees in life [except for death and taxes] - especially in aviation.
Bear in mind that Gladiator is now, and always has been a First Officer [of less than 7 years with SQ, and less than 4 years with Alaska Airlines,] and as such, his ambitions have not been realised, his experiences limited, and his prejudices jaundiced by the outcome of his actions [rightly or otherwise] wrt SQ.
Perhaps this was your first interview for an airline job.....interviews can vary widely, as far as perceived "friendliness" or otherwise is concerned, at it just might be that your "extremely brutal" assessment was intentional, to see how you would handle the knocks sure to come your way.
My suggestion to you, is to contact other pilots who are employed as expats [with say, Cathay, Dragonair, and Emirates], and ask them for their opinions.
No-one has the "right" to a job, just because he meets [or exceeds] the requirements the airline sets out, or because a pilot employed by the particular company tells you that you're a certainty.
Besides ALL of that, SIA is not paying market price for pilots anyway, so it may have been a blessing in disguise!
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You are not the only one who has applied for an airline [any airline] job, and not been successful.
I'm sure that Capt xxx and xxx were well-intentioned, when they told you [what you hoped to hear] that you seemed to be suitable material for SQ.....unfortunately, there ARE no guarantees in life [except for death and taxes] - especially in aviation.
Bear in mind that Gladiator is now, and always has been a First Officer [of less than 7 years with SQ, and less than 4 years with Alaska Airlines,] and as such, his ambitions have not been realised, his experiences limited, and his prejudices jaundiced by the outcome of his actions [rightly or otherwise] wrt SQ.
Perhaps this was your first interview for an airline job.....interviews can vary widely, as far as perceived "friendliness" or otherwise is concerned, at it just might be that your "extremely brutal" assessment was intentional, to see how you would handle the knocks sure to come your way.
My suggestion to you, is to contact other pilots who are employed as expats [with say, Cathay, Dragonair, and Emirates], and ask them for their opinions.
No-one has the "right" to a job, just because he meets [or exceeds] the requirements the airline sets out, or because a pilot employed by the particular company tells you that you're a certainty.
Besides ALL of that, SIA is not paying market price for pilots anyway, so it may have been a blessing in disguise!
[This message has been edited by Kaptin M (edited 22 February 2001).]
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To all the Big Boys in the Far East Forum,
Anyone think that the 20% pay hike in today's news will become a reality? Makes a difference when deciding Bali or Hawaii for a holiday? I have taken an interest in your postings and will check out the archives to get a hang of all posts/replies.
WLT
Anyone think that the 20% pay hike in today's news will become a reality? Makes a difference when deciding Bali or Hawaii for a holiday? I have taken an interest in your postings and will check out the archives to get a hang of all posts/replies.
WLT
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Thanks Glad, it's been edited, however, as an employee I'm sure you're aware that the general usage is "Alaskan" when referring to your company.
In that same vein, I wasn't aware that the marketing for "Iranian" caviar had changed to "Persian", however as a native Ayatollah you're probably more up with that than I.
You and titan seemed to have missed the boat, by not posting some anti-SIA stuff about the depletion of the sturgeon [due to overfishing, obviously for the roe], and the expected annihalation of the species within the next 10-15 years. I'm certain the pair of you [in association with your multiple other personalities] could build a fairly strong case that you could run with.....let's see now Sturgeon Insurgent Annihalists rapidly killing endangered species ??
In that same vein, I wasn't aware that the marketing for "Iranian" caviar had changed to "Persian", however as a native Ayatollah you're probably more up with that than I.
You and titan seemed to have missed the boat, by not posting some anti-SIA stuff about the depletion of the sturgeon [due to overfishing, obviously for the roe], and the expected annihalation of the species within the next 10-15 years. I'm certain the pair of you [in association with your multiple other personalities] could build a fairly strong case that you could run with.....let's see now Sturgeon Insurgent Annihalists rapidly killing endangered species ??
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Kaptin M, it has always been ALASKA, never ALASKAN. However you may call it whatever you like.
The same goes for the caviar. You may call it Persian or Iranian. Either way it tastes just the same.
As for the rest, (with Clark Gable voice), "frankly Kaptin, I don't give a darn".
p.s. For your files and future use Kaptin, my place of birth is the United Kingdom. However, the Ayatollah sure did rock and rolla.
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The same goes for the caviar. You may call it Persian or Iranian. Either way it tastes just the same.
As for the rest, (with Clark Gable voice), "frankly Kaptin, I don't give a darn".
p.s. For your files and future use Kaptin, my place of birth is the United Kingdom. However, the Ayatollah sure did rock and rolla.
[This message has been edited by Gladiator (edited 22 February 2001).]