Singapore Airlines near miss in Perth Australia
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tsentsan,
I don't think it's miscommunication between ATC and aircrew... The A340 reported maintaining FL330 and then proceeded to overshoot that level...
WRT the current incident, there's nothing published yet...
[This message has been edited by anito4a (edited 03 December 2000).]
I don't think it's miscommunication between ATC and aircrew... The A340 reported maintaining FL330 and then proceeded to overshoot that level...
WRT the current incident, there's nothing published yet...
[This message has been edited by anito4a (edited 03 December 2000).]
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"If there was a runway incursion, Singapore Airlines will act on it accordingly". Didn't you mean to say "hide the whole incident as best they can". Pay money if they have to, to keep the truth from getting in the way of what really happened. Perhaps someone could detail the supersonic A310 over the Bay of Bengal. Wait a minute. That was written up as "severe height loss over Bay of Bengal" and that is all that was written. Perhaps someone could detail the stalling of a -400 over Hungary. Wait a minute that really didn't happen did it. Act accordingly? What a joke! You are kidding aren't you.
An to Kaptin M, does Singapore need to re-examine it's training philosphy? People have been crying for them to do this for years. Will it happen? No! A Singaporean is incapable of learning the way of modern aviation. That involves CRM and gets rid of the God status of the Singaporean captain. Not going to happen mate. Never!!
"If there was a runway incursion, Singapore Airlines will act on it accordingly". Didn't you mean to say "hide the whole incident as best they can". Pay money if they have to, to keep the truth from getting in the way of what really happened. Perhaps someone could detail the supersonic A310 over the Bay of Bengal. Wait a minute. That was written up as "severe height loss over Bay of Bengal" and that is all that was written. Perhaps someone could detail the stalling of a -400 over Hungary. Wait a minute that really didn't happen did it. Act accordingly? What a joke! You are kidding aren't you.
An to Kaptin M, does Singapore need to re-examine it's training philosphy? People have been crying for them to do this for years. Will it happen? No! A Singaporean is incapable of learning the way of modern aviation. That involves CRM and gets rid of the God status of the Singaporean captain. Not going to happen mate. Never!!
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Dear Sir Jerker, alias titan or Glad - I'm not sure, nor care which, but the repetitve rhetoric isn't disguised by a change of names - both of you have experienced flying in only one Asian airline. From my experience in several, and from talking with other "western" pilots, the status of captain is undeniably at the top of the crew pyramid, and because of that perceived position, there is a tendency to not challenge, or speak up, when something "out of the ordinary" arises. It is not peculiar only to Singapore.
There are some locals who will give the F/O a real bollocking, just for entertainment - I'm sure you can both think of at least one example - and, unfortunately, there are some expats who don't take long to realise that they can also command a "God-like" respect, if they act like all-knowing pricks.
It's whole cultures that will have to be changed, to completely correct the cockpit discipline - a little like someone telling you that you must not speak up, if you see something wrong.
There are some locals who will give the F/O a real bollocking, just for entertainment - I'm sure you can both think of at least one example - and, unfortunately, there are some expats who don't take long to realise that they can also command a "God-like" respect, if they act like all-knowing pricks.
It's whole cultures that will have to be changed, to completely correct the cockpit discipline - a little like someone telling you that you must not speak up, if you see something wrong.
