Melaka Flying Academy
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Melaka Flying Academy
Hello,
I`m doing my flight training in Canada currently and have contacted DCA in Malaysia
about converting to Malaysian CPL/ATPL
and they referred me to Melaka Flying Academy. Anyone got any info or views about the school? is it the only flying school in Malaysia? Have not been back home for a long time.
Thanx again!
I`m doing my flight training in Canada currently and have contacted DCA in Malaysia
about converting to Malaysian CPL/ATPL
and they referred me to Melaka Flying Academy. Anyone got any info or views about the school? is it the only flying school in Malaysia? Have not been back home for a long time.
Thanx again!
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It is "Malaysia Flying Academy", situated at Malacca Airport, across the runway from the passenger terminal building. It is NOT "Melaka Flying Academy". It is the only full-fledge flying school in Malaysia now, the other one at Langkawi Airport has ceased operations a few years ago.
The pricipal of the school is an expat from India, ex-IAF pilot (Captain Kharshav). Flight instructors includes some Malaysians ex-RMAF pilots, some are very good. Air-conditioned class-rooms, and a hostel within the school campus.
(The other flying schools in Malaysia are run by the RMAF. No civilian cadets.)
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The pricipal of the school is an expat from India, ex-IAF pilot (Captain Kharshav). Flight instructors includes some Malaysians ex-RMAF pilots, some are very good. Air-conditioned class-rooms, and a hostel within the school campus.
(The other flying schools in Malaysia are run by the RMAF. No civilian cadets.)
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Used to work there, its a **** hole. The school has been run into the ground over the last couple of years, and staff moral is at a real low. ONLY go there if its a real must...
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BorneoPilot
I was at MFA about 7 years ago and I don't think too highly of it. Don't know, but things may have changed since then...
There doesn't seem to be any set policy (well back then, anyway) in terms of what is required to convert foreign CPL to Malaysian CPL. But it seems that the Malaysian DCA stipulates which further exam papers you need to sit, and MFA stipulates flying hours and skills.
On the other hand, there were people with UK CPL/IR who converted on a 1-for-1 ...no extra flying nor further exam papers required.
Here is another alternative to MFA, although this the first I'v heard of the "Malaysia Airlines Academy".
http://www.malaysiaairlines.com.my/m...demy/main.html
Good luck in pursuits!
I was at MFA about 7 years ago and I don't think too highly of it. Don't know, but things may have changed since then...
There doesn't seem to be any set policy (well back then, anyway) in terms of what is required to convert foreign CPL to Malaysian CPL. But it seems that the Malaysian DCA stipulates which further exam papers you need to sit, and MFA stipulates flying hours and skills.
On the other hand, there were people with UK CPL/IR who converted on a 1-for-1 ...no extra flying nor further exam papers required.
Here is another alternative to MFA, although this the first I'v heard of the "Malaysia Airlines Academy".
http://www.malaysiaairlines.com.my/m...demy/main.html
Good luck in pursuits!
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hello anito4a + fellow pilots
how is the Malaysia Airlines Academy
in Flight training? anyone train there before? I`ve looked through their webpage
and they offer Twin Otter training.
anyone know the price?
another question. Job opprtunities in Malaysia? any float operators there?
what planes do they fly? twin otters?
Cessna Caravans? Dash-7/8? who are the companies?
thanks again!
how is the Malaysia Airlines Academy
in Flight training? anyone train there before? I`ve looked through their webpage
and they offer Twin Otter training.
anyone know the price?
another question. Job opprtunities in Malaysia? any float operators there?
what planes do they fly? twin otters?
Cessna Caravans? Dash-7/8? who are the companies?
thanks again!
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Borneo Pilot, perhaps the following may be useful.
1) Ensure that the flying school you are attending is Malaysian DCA recognised.
2) If not, it is very very possible that you will have to sit the UK 6 CPL and or the UK ATPL written examinations before DCA will issue you a CPL, BTW, ATPL subjects will be required for co-pilot positions in aircraft MTOW greater than 12500 Ibs.
3) unless you have 700hrs or more in aircraft above 40,000 Ibs check that you have the required educational requirements required by DCA for issuance of their licence ( Believe it or not some candidates have had this problem)
4) Malaysian Air Law will have to be passed.
5) Performance A also will have to be passed.
6) Aircon Pressurisation, Basic Gas Turbines ect will be required if the type you wish to fly employs such systems.
7) Another quirky bunch of exams are the tecnical papers hudraulics, pnuematica, AC electrics, DC electrics ect ( Some have had to sit them some have not depends on your luck I guess )
8) A Certificate of Test ( C of T ) may be required to validate your instrument rating, this will be done in an aircraft over here, for employment purposes it is better that you do it in a twin engine aircraft.
ONCE LICENSING HAS BEEN SORTED PROCEED TO STEP 2. ( EMPLOYMENT )
9) Almost all the aircraft here are turbine, there seems to be little AVGAS so only a few Navajo's, Barrons etc.
10) MAS is your best bet you require Malaysian ATPL Command Instrument Rating and certain educational quailfications SPM xxxx subjects + Bahasa Malaysia etc check on this.
But if you are connected at a high level no problems you will get in with standard 1 primary school fail.
11) No floats yet over here but you should start an operation it will do well!!!!!
12) Berjaya Operates DASH 7's
13) MAS ( Rural Air Services operats DHC 6's)
14) Transmile Air operates B737-200F, QC's and B727-200F's + C 208's
15) Air Aisa operates B737-300's.
These are the major players but would advise MAS as everybody is leaving. If you get there and find everybody gone switch the lights off. All the best and hope you make it. Good Luck, Wooblah..........
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1) Ensure that the flying school you are attending is Malaysian DCA recognised.
2) If not, it is very very possible that you will have to sit the UK 6 CPL and or the UK ATPL written examinations before DCA will issue you a CPL, BTW, ATPL subjects will be required for co-pilot positions in aircraft MTOW greater than 12500 Ibs.
3) unless you have 700hrs or more in aircraft above 40,000 Ibs check that you have the required educational requirements required by DCA for issuance of their licence ( Believe it or not some candidates have had this problem)
4) Malaysian Air Law will have to be passed.
5) Performance A also will have to be passed.
6) Aircon Pressurisation, Basic Gas Turbines ect will be required if the type you wish to fly employs such systems.
7) Another quirky bunch of exams are the tecnical papers hudraulics, pnuematica, AC electrics, DC electrics ect ( Some have had to sit them some have not depends on your luck I guess )
8) A Certificate of Test ( C of T ) may be required to validate your instrument rating, this will be done in an aircraft over here, for employment purposes it is better that you do it in a twin engine aircraft.
ONCE LICENSING HAS BEEN SORTED PROCEED TO STEP 2. ( EMPLOYMENT )
9) Almost all the aircraft here are turbine, there seems to be little AVGAS so only a few Navajo's, Barrons etc.
10) MAS is your best bet you require Malaysian ATPL Command Instrument Rating and certain educational quailfications SPM xxxx subjects + Bahasa Malaysia etc check on this.
But if you are connected at a high level no problems you will get in with standard 1 primary school fail.
11) No floats yet over here but you should start an operation it will do well!!!!!
12) Berjaya Operates DASH 7's
13) MAS ( Rural Air Services operats DHC 6's)
14) Transmile Air operates B737-200F, QC's and B727-200F's + C 208's
15) Air Aisa operates B737-300's.
These are the major players but would advise MAS as everybody is leaving. If you get there and find everybody gone switch the lights off. All the best and hope you make it. Good Luck, Wooblah..........
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Excellent run down Capt Wooblah but Berjaya Air operates Dash 7. Infact they have two and are slowly expanding.
Oh, by the way Borneopilot if you find the electricity bill for MAS just light your cigarette with it. Like everything at MAS it's all gone up in flames.
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Oh, by the way Borneopilot if you find the electricity bill for MAS just light your cigarette with it. Like everything at MAS it's all gone up in flames.
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Malaysia Airlines Academy (MAA) is the training department of MAS. It is a subsidiary of MAS created by the present CEO of MAS, probably for the purpose of creative accounting.
MAA is not your typical flying schools. MAA does not train ab-initio pilots. MAA primarily train flight hostesses. MAS Pilots only show up at MAA once a year to do SEP refresher, or type conversion SEP. MAA also conduct training for other MAS personnel both local and overseas. Why, they even have their own hotel (or hostel) right next door to MAA.
Flight simulators are situated elsewhere, in a building located in old Subang Airport. Pilot training used to be part of MAS Flight Operations, but now it is 'managed' by MAA (if they knew how), using MAS flight instructors.
I heard rumours that MAS is trying to sell the flight simulators to Boeing or Flight Safety.
MAA is not your typical flying schools. MAA does not train ab-initio pilots. MAA primarily train flight hostesses. MAS Pilots only show up at MAA once a year to do SEP refresher, or type conversion SEP. MAA also conduct training for other MAS personnel both local and overseas. Why, they even have their own hotel (or hostel) right next door to MAA.
Flight simulators are situated elsewhere, in a building located in old Subang Airport. Pilot training used to be part of MAS Flight Operations, but now it is 'managed' by MAA (if they knew how), using MAS flight instructors.
I heard rumours that MAS is trying to sell the flight simulators to Boeing or Flight Safety.
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Borneopilot, there's a rumour and I stress a rumour but nonetheless a reliable one that MAS are not going to send anymore of their cadet trainees to Melaka due to their poor standards.If that's the case than I can only assume that the school won't last very long. They are however planning to open another flight school in Ipoh(approx 170kms north of KL)with the help of BAe.(With their fingers in so many pie,even with a minority stake, it's no wonder they're losing money by the lorry load.) How true this is, is anybody's guess as MAS never knows what it's left hand does from it's right one.
Good luck in your endeavours as there are loads of exams to pass and getting your instrument rating in Malaysia isn't the easiest as planes aren't always available(if at all!) and the cost high.
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Good luck in your endeavours as there are loads of exams to pass and getting your instrument rating in Malaysia isn't the easiest as planes aren't always available(if at all!) and the cost high.
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If it moves, than funk it!
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It's not so much as Malacca Flying School standards as being low as being too high. Many MAS management siblings could not get through the flying courses there. These cadets were selected by MAS and some do not even meet the minimum requirement at all since they are connected to some of the cronies. I've talked to some of the instructors and they were quite disapointed with the quality of the recruits selected by MAS. Another is the cadets attitude 'you better make me pass' if not I'll tell my father.. How can you teach when the basic knowledge is not there. They might as well open up another SPM class teaching Physics, Math etc.
As far as left and right hand I agree with you. 'Intergration' had never been in MAS vocabulary and that includes 'moral'.
Well If they open their own school in Ipoh they can do what they want. There goes the future of safety in MAS.
It's not so much as Malacca Flying School standards as being low as being too high. Many MAS management siblings could not get through the flying courses there. These cadets were selected by MAS and some do not even meet the minimum requirement at all since they are connected to some of the cronies. I've talked to some of the instructors and they were quite disapointed with the quality of the recruits selected by MAS. Another is the cadets attitude 'you better make me pass' if not I'll tell my father.. How can you teach when the basic knowledge is not there. They might as well open up another SPM class teaching Physics, Math etc.
As far as left and right hand I agree with you. 'Intergration' had never been in MAS vocabulary and that includes 'moral'.
Well If they open their own school in Ipoh they can do what they want. There goes the future of safety in MAS.
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Old Ace,
It's funny how just the other day at the sim building there were two guys waiting for the aptitude test or sim check. There was this 'Datuk' with them who was flashing his card about. Does he expect just because he has connections and knows diddly sh** about flying that he can get his own way? Well, in MAS or Malaysia anything is possible even if it means the quality of the candidate is poor. Nepotism and cronyism rules the day!!
By the way, when is that pratt TR going to get his a** out of MAS and hopefully followed closely by all his Taliban misfits. I read that he's negotiating with the Govt as no one else is interested. Let's hope we all have a good X'mas present when he finally goes sooner rather then later.
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It's funny how just the other day at the sim building there were two guys waiting for the aptitude test or sim check. There was this 'Datuk' with them who was flashing his card about. Does he expect just because he has connections and knows diddly sh** about flying that he can get his own way? Well, in MAS or Malaysia anything is possible even if it means the quality of the candidate is poor. Nepotism and cronyism rules the day!!
By the way, when is that pratt TR going to get his a** out of MAS and hopefully followed closely by all his Taliban misfits. I read that he's negotiating with the Govt as no one else is interested. Let's hope we all have a good X'mas present when he finally goes sooner rather then later.
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Yes like I predicted before no one is interested to buy over MAS shares. At first Tabong Haji wanted to buy it ( I bet the idea was initiated by the Talibans to guarantee their positions in MAS) but to operate the airline without serving alcohol. Someone reckons to do so will incur more loss so the offer was left open.
It was in the papers the other day that Danaharta is buying it for 1.78 bil @ $8/- per share. TR bought it for $8/- in 1994 for only $800 mil (I still got the paper cutting). He makes a clean profit of almost $1/- bil. Where does Danaharta get the money, I hope not from the taxpayers fund again.
MAS present share value is $3.60 . They mentioned about the overall value of $5/- without aircraft sales (what ac almost all had been sold).
For your info I heard it was last year that the MAS Simulator Building had been sold to Boeing.
No asset a lot of 'utang' who want to buy. Only a Govt buy out at taxpayers expense can save,I hope, MAS. All those fella from Quantas,Swissair, etc came enjoyed themselves with the MAS management and then 'cabut'. All expenses borne by MAS again.
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It was in the papers the other day that Danaharta is buying it for 1.78 bil @ $8/- per share. TR bought it for $8/- in 1994 for only $800 mil (I still got the paper cutting). He makes a clean profit of almost $1/- bil. Where does Danaharta get the money, I hope not from the taxpayers fund again.
MAS present share value is $3.60 . They mentioned about the overall value of $5/- without aircraft sales (what ac almost all had been sold).
For your info I heard it was last year that the MAS Simulator Building had been sold to Boeing.
No asset a lot of 'utang' who want to buy. Only a Govt buy out at taxpayers expense can save,I hope, MAS. All those fella from Quantas,Swissair, etc came enjoyed themselves with the MAS management and then 'cabut'. All expenses borne by MAS again.
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In Asian Wall Street Journal, printed news about the selling of TR's stake back to the government @RM8 per share. Habislah duit rakyat lagi. I couldn't understand; if TR would have made profit, semua masuk poket dia and perhaps someone's too. But, when business not so good, he want to sell back at the same price he bought. Who doesn't want to do business like this!? Looks like Datuk B.A. is going to be the new M.D. The same person that have run the top management all this while. What have he done for the last 25 years? Same clown in different outfit(position).