Gladiator afterall!
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Gladiator afterall!
Gladiator, I take my hat off to you, in the way you refrain from grapping this chance to hammer SIA. Thanks again, you showed after all to be a real proffessional although I might have a different vieuw point on some of your earlier listings.
Bye for now.
Bye for now.
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Safety is always a convenient whip for anyone who has no solid platform to stand on . Who in his right mind would speak against safety ?
Most people die in bed . Most accident happen at home . Does Gladys live in the bush ?
I remember when working back home
sometimes union issues and safety issues seems to merge .
Its easy to speak from moral high ground on safety issue but whats your true intent .
Its just like freedom of speech . It must carry with it responsibilities and accountability . To a 6 footer yelling at a
80 years old lady , its freedom of speech ; but to the poor lady , its intimidation and she carries a psychological scar for a long long time . Similarly , a group of bullies
laughing and teasing a teenager may call it freedom of speech . to the poor teenager ,
its bullying and it will scar him a long time .
So is your intent truly in the interest of flight safety ?
It is unfortunate that you left SIA with a bitter aftertaste . But please dont spoil it for the rest of us here . You had
your chance . I would like to pay my mortgage and save a few more dollars before I return
Most people die in bed . Most accident happen at home . Does Gladys live in the bush ?
I remember when working back home
sometimes union issues and safety issues seems to merge .
Its easy to speak from moral high ground on safety issue but whats your true intent .
Its just like freedom of speech . It must carry with it responsibilities and accountability . To a 6 footer yelling at a
80 years old lady , its freedom of speech ; but to the poor lady , its intimidation and she carries a psychological scar for a long long time . Similarly , a group of bullies
laughing and teasing a teenager may call it freedom of speech . to the poor teenager ,
its bullying and it will scar him a long time .
So is your intent truly in the interest of flight safety ?
It is unfortunate that you left SIA with a bitter aftertaste . But please dont spoil it for the rest of us here . You had
your chance . I would like to pay my mortgage and save a few more dollars before I return
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Fair enough Pillow, please tell me which part of my safety concerns has/had no merit.
You can refer to a particular paragraph or date of post in Singapore Airlines vs. Gladiator posts.
I am more than willing to discuss it point by point. But please no p1ssing match, just discussion point by point.
You can refer to a particular paragraph or date of post in Singapore Airlines vs. Gladiator posts.
I am more than willing to discuss it point by point. But please no p1ssing match, just discussion point by point.
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Come off it Habibi - you know damn well it was only because a "high ranking SIA official" rang you and pleaded with you not to comment on Pprune about the incident that you kept quiet.
If you tell porky pies Mate - you have to have a good memory!!!!!! Last post on the following thread in case you have forgotten !
www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/Forum1/HTML/010790-3.html
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If you tell porky pies Mate - you have to have a good memory!!!!!! Last post on the following thread in case you have forgotten !
www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/Forum1/HTML/010790-3.html
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C'mon guys, do you honestly think SIA gives a flying f*** about Glads? Do you really think that in the middle of the accident aftermath they're going to call Gladys and ask him to refrain? Yeah right, get real, that's the biggest load of lies I've ever heard. As for the amount of posts on SIA "incidents" recently, they truly liken you guys to the vultures in the press that the aviation industry all detest so much. Can I ask this. Instead of a malicious, unconfirmed whisper campaign on the web, why did Glads not actually try to assist in resolving safety issues at SIA. He obviously is more influential than we thought if they felt they had to beg his mercy in the aftermath of SQ006. No, the more I see, the more I feel that safety is just a convenient platform for Glads. After all, Alaska Airlines is hardly an example to follow, now is it? That's right, Glads, you can say what you like, but their operation was shown to be shambolic. But, since you are not in a contractual wrangle with them, you can overlook the problems ,eh? And don't try to pretend all is fine. No Airline is perfect on safety, you see problems with your current employer, but you choose not to dwell on them. I'm sorry, but I see no real balance here, anyone counter Glad's opinion is an agent, and it's always the same people stirring it up, how much of your lives do you spend trying to think up new incidents?
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Driven back into our shells and trembling. Well isn't that a fine example of Singaporean totalatarianism. SIA uses the same technique on us lowly "absconders".
History is full of absconders, people who left to find something better. I am glad that you have all found the true meaning of your lives at SIA. May you bathe in your own humanity.
History is full of absconders, people who left to find something better. I am glad that you have all found the true meaning of your lives at SIA. May you bathe in your own humanity.
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Kangar:
"do you honestly think SIA gives a flying f*** about Glads?"
well it sure seems they do to me. Why else would they have replaced the door locks on the 744, stopped FOs from operating in the right hand seat, and begun insisting that all there FOs obtain ATPL licenses?
I suppose you could say that safety is no accident.
"do you honestly think SIA gives a flying f*** about Glads?"
well it sure seems they do to me. Why else would they have replaced the door locks on the 744, stopped FOs from operating in the right hand seat, and begun insisting that all there FOs obtain ATPL licenses?
I suppose you could say that safety is no accident.
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Titan,
By that reasoning, I can link any proactive safety fix in SIA in the last year to Glad's postings, which we both know not to be the case. Sometimes, shock, horrors, yes! SIA do get it right......in any case, if they were responding to Glad's promptings, why did he leave?
By that reasoning, I can link any proactive safety fix in SIA in the last year to Glad's postings, which we both know not to be the case. Sometimes, shock, horrors, yes! SIA do get it right......in any case, if they were responding to Glad's promptings, why did he leave?
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Kangar have you been reading the legal documents, Singapore Airlines vs. Gladiator?
There are a lot of material to think about. If you have read them and continue to read them it will answer your question.
Specially Part 1, think about every discovery document requested from SIA. If you are a pilot with SIA then it will be clear.
My leaving SIA involved two issues, safety was only one. The other was breach of contract. The mere having to sit in the Pilot-in-command's seat (3-pilot configuration) was a breach of contract (if hired as co-pilot, what was I doing in the pilot-in-commands's seat?)
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There are a lot of material to think about. If you have read them and continue to read them it will answer your question.
Specially Part 1, think about every discovery document requested from SIA. If you are a pilot with SIA then it will be clear.
My leaving SIA involved two issues, safety was only one. The other was breach of contract. The mere having to sit in the Pilot-in-command's seat (3-pilot configuration) was a breach of contract (if hired as co-pilot, what was I doing in the pilot-in-commands's seat?)
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Kanga:
You only have 9 postings. I therefore assume that you are unfamiliar with Gladiators's writings. So, rather than waffle on in ignorance, go back and search Gladiator's postings over the last year. It is all there.
"the foe of all knowledge is not ignorance, but ignorance of ignorance"
You only have 9 postings. I therefore assume that you are unfamiliar with Gladiators's writings. So, rather than waffle on in ignorance, go back and search Gladiator's postings over the last year. It is all there.
"the foe of all knowledge is not ignorance, but ignorance of ignorance"
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No Pillow I did not lose the case. The plaintiff and the defendant came to an agreement before the trial. The trial was set to be trial by a jury.
Agreement was in June 2000. The trial was set for Aug 2000.
The Singapore Airlines vs. Gladiator legal documents are public information and therefore available to any individual through the freedom of information act.
If interested they can be obtained directly from the United States Federal Court in Seattle, Washington.
Agreement was in June 2000. The trial was set for Aug 2000.
The Singapore Airlines vs. Gladiator legal documents are public information and therefore available to any individual through the freedom of information act.
If interested they can be obtained directly from the United States Federal Court in Seattle, Washington.
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Titan, The number of postings is irrelevant. I have been observing the to and fro of this topic for up on a year now, and I have considered my posting carefully, it's always good to stand back and think about what you say, you might benefit from it. Finally, I am tired of saying this, but will nonetheless say it once more. Gladiator, why do you persist with your posts on the web, where they remain, relatively speaking anonymous, when you could bring it to a much wider media coverage. Now is the time to do it, when SIA safety is in the spotlight. And don't give me that junk about a high ranking SIA official asking you not to. You owe a duty of care to the public, knowing what you claim to know about SIA, and it rightfully belongs in the broader public domain, not a rumour network.
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One other thing, Glads,
Why did it take you so long to develop a conscience about illegally flying relief for the captain. It's such a coincidence that you jumped ship on safety grounds just after you completed training. The other problem I have with the account you give of the case is that you present your side clearly, but in quite a number of sections, you simply say, "SIA lied". Just print the facts (i.e. what actually happened in the court room) and let the rest of us make up our own minds.
Why did it take you so long to develop a conscience about illegally flying relief for the captain. It's such a coincidence that you jumped ship on safety grounds just after you completed training. The other problem I have with the account you give of the case is that you present your side clearly, but in quite a number of sections, you simply say, "SIA lied". Just print the facts (i.e. what actually happened in the court room) and let the rest of us make up our own minds.