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Old 21st Jun 2024, 18:38
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Pilot working for two airlines at the same time

A first officer actively working for both KM Malta and Virgin Atlantic was caught! She was fired on the spot by Virgin Atlantic but re-instated by Malta after a suspension.

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Testament to how low pilot salaries are to even feel the need to
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How did she have the time?
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I do not believe the story
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Old 22nd Jun 2024, 07:42
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I do not believe the story
I do. Happened in two airlines that I have worked for. Some people are devious.
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She is a "Commercial" pilot allowed to fly for "Hire or reward". . Does the Malta or Virgin contract tie her specifically to ONE operator ?
Not recommending or supporting but loadsa people have multiple jobs, I was a pilot by day and jazz drummer by night. Serial womanizer whilst holding down both jobs . My current GP is 83 and works for both the local NHS and pockets a fortune doing private work. Asked me how I got into flying and fell asleep during the answer.

Multiple jobs not always safe or satisfactory but not always illegal either.
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Multiple jobs not always safe or satisfactory but not always illegal either.
A pilot has legal requirements about rest periods and being fit for duty. A 320endorsement does not give you an automatic 330 endorsement so it would be interesting to know haw she managed the type rating and line training for each airline.
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Old 22nd Jun 2024, 09:48
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There is something amiss here, isn't she serving a notice at VA? I doubt she was planning on continuing to fly for both! I doubt she'd be flying more than 20 hours per month at the new outfit anyway at this moment in time. Maybe she had to start sooner and VAs notice period wasn't going to work?
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Guessing it's another brick in the anti-air-travel wall the media is working on building at the moment.

May be true, may not be, doesn't seem to matter much any more.

The source, btw, is some really third-tier stuff. How do you even come across this tier of 'news?'
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Guys please!!! As an SLF let me offer some advice. One 'reportedly' means 'bits' might be true. Two means there's a possibility that one bit of the article might have a basis in fact. Three means at least the full stop at the end is in the right place and four means even the 'Brothers Grimm' wouldn't have dared writing it. When I did my Masters Degree if I'd used any source with even one 'reportedly' in it I'd have been thrown off the course. This doesn't even pass muster as a work of fiction!!
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There is actually an original source with a fairly well-populated comment section...

https://theshiftnews.com/2024/06/15/...-safety-rules/

Apparently a local Maltese org.
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I think some folks are forgetting the first word in this forum. It’s a crazy story!
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Old 22nd Jun 2024, 19:05
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I can't see any reason why a pilot might not manage to be employed full-time by one airline (esp. long-haul with longer blocks of days off) and freelance for another.
Neither can I see any reason why the first employer would not sack them summarily for criminally misrepresenting their flying hours - a major breach of air sqfety and Professionalism.
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I guess nobody jumping on the outrage train has heard of such a thing as “part-time”? Or ferry flying? Or sim work?

Spare me the bleeding hearts worrying about the children and the orphanages being flown over; VA & anything flagged under Malta already totally abuse FTLs.

Don’t pretend to be worried about this one, clearly more than capable pilot. For example; what’s their safety record compared to the average ‘pilot’ in the right seat?
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Most airlines will have a clause in the pilot's employment contract that they own the annual total of flying hours available and other flying with the exceptions of Air Force reserve and private light aircraft, is prohibited. This isn't unreasonable if they employ you on a full time basis with the expectation of you being available up to the legal limit for rostering.

Agreements are possible for additional employment if the work is seasonal and limits aren't being reached but everyone needs to know where they stand.
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Old 23rd Jun 2024, 01:01
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Airlines.html
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Back in the '90s ppl would do this flying for EVA or China Airlines (full time, but smart with scheduling) and in the meanwhile moonlighting for one of the 74 cargo ops (out of HK, can't remember the name). Magic (aircraft change) usually happened during the extended layovers in ANC...
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I'm guessing she was found out after repeatedly using other call sign on the R/T...
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Just imagine the magic she would do with two husbands...
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You need to do an OCC course when switching between airlines , so unless she did this every week then the flying was illegal .
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