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Old 20th Jun 2024, 07:40
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Climate protesters at Stanstead

Reading my news from Great Britain from afar this morning informs me that climate protesters (I will use neutral terms here, due to this forum) have broken into private aircraft handling area and sprayed orange fluid over two aircraft (pictured by the Harrod's Aviation shed). Now the media report this happened hours after Taylor Swift's aircraft arrived - a news peg as it is not suggested that the pair of assailants dared p-ss off the Swifties by attacking THAT aircraft. Then the article does a slight turn and reports "It is not currently known if Taylor Swift's jet was in the airfield or of it was attacked" so maybe - for that nugget - the Daily Mail is just guessing. They will get the value of the airfield manager's house right I guess...At least one newspaper names the two persons as Jennifer Kowalski, 28, and Cole Macdonald, 22. Information taken I understand from some videos they've put on social media, so they cut under the perimeter fence and crawled underneath. I guess security is a bit sparse.

I guess another risk is that if they can get in, do what they did, and gleely film it, others with a different ill-intent could creep in, fiddle with stuff that might not be seen on the pre-flight inspection and ...


The news of the damage at Stonehenge was shocking enough - even making my national media - without these games. I guess until they paint the house of a few Judges and the Judge's club nothing will really happen. OR is British law really so toothless?
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https://news.sky.com/story/private-a...sters-13155864

That has made quite a mess (again)

Maybe the police should use their newest tactic and ram the protesters off the premises.
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I looked up online an alleged distance from where one of the alleged parties lives AND the distance to STN.

"The distance between Dumbarton and London Stansted Airport (STN) is 361 miles. The road distance is 399.8 miles."

Now, if fossil fuels are the devil's semen, or something equally bad, one of those ladies must have pretty tight, shaped thighs by cycling 400 miles.

Or are fossil fuels OK when used to "campaign against fossil fuels", just as the ministers, MPs and hangers on justify their long distance trips to warm climates to discuss climate change, especially during the chilly winter period.

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I looked up online an alleged distance from where one of the alleged parties lives AND the distance to STN.

"The distance between Dumbarton and London Stansted Airport (STN) is 361 miles. The road distance is 399.8 miles."

Now, if fossil fuels are the devil's semen, or something equally bad, one of those ladies must have pretty tight, shaped thighs by cycling 400 miles.

Or are fossil fuels OK when used to "campaign against fossil fuels", just as the ministers, MPs and hangers on justify their long distance trips to warm climates to discuss climate change, especially during the chilly winter period.
A case of "Do as I say, but don't you dare do as I do or else!"
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Originally Posted by luoto
I looked up online an alleged distance from where one of the alleged parties lives AND the distance to STN.

"The distance between Dumbarton and London Stansted Airport (STN) is 361 miles. The road distance is 399.8 miles."

Now, if fossil fuels are the devil's semen, or something equally bad, one of those ladies must have pretty tight, shaped thighs by cycling 400 miles.

Or are fossil fuels OK when used to "campaign against fossil fuels", just as the ministers, MPs and hangers on justify their long distance trips to warm climates to discuss climate change, especially during the chilly winter period.
This response always pops up when having a dig at protesters. They're against future investment in fossil fuel. Not its current use. Currently we have limited alternate options and therefore rely on it.
I'm not saying their methods are correct of course.
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This response always pops up when having a dig at protesters. They're against future investment in fossil fuel. Not its current use. Currently we have limited alternate options and therefore rely on it.
I'm not saying their methods are correct of course.
But then it is essential to ration the precious resource today. Limited alternatives= well they could cycle or walk. Or protest remotely. Just as many are expected to live/work/shop etc "local".

And that is even before the sheer vandalism of things. I bet that couple and their ilk won't spray stuff at Glasto and other "holy events" in their calendar. All those eco people at Glasto and look at the sheer amount of mess left each year. It makes an Indian slum look clean.

So if I had heard "there was a public protest outside of STN today about X" maybe it would register some support. 500 people met up on a cold Thursday to protest about X. Fine.

Two asshats damage the property of someone else. Perhaps it uses chemicals and oil to remedy. Response = a negative interest in what they are doing. Ditto with the asshats yesterday at Stonehenge.

If "all" I passively hear is protesters damaging things - even through a broad range of media - it is hardly going to get me to want to "join their cause" or have sympathies to it.

It's a bit like the "Poll Tax" riots in some ways...
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Meanwhile security at Birmingham doing a fine job.
How much liquid in an orange paint filled fire extinguisher​​​​​​?

Yes, British law is toothless
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They make the news and that is what matters to them . Same a throwing soup on masters paintings in museums. By discussing it we encourage more. That the way social media works. Create the" buzz" to make advertising revenue. Protesters are using it .

On the matter itself on investment on fossil fuels , that is unfortunately the only way out of the economy we created. A few days a go the CEO of Veolia,( #1 in water management ) indicated that clean water needs will double by 2040 , only way out is recycling and desalting sea water .and both need energy, i.e electricity. The demand for electricity will be multiplied by 5 by 2040 mainly due to digitalization , move to electric mobility and produce clean water. Unless there is a huge investment coming in nuclear power everywhere, the only way to accommodate this electricity demand is through the use of fossil fuels.
I believe the current climate change effects on our environment ,e.g. extreme High temps, Fires, floods , tornadoes, etc.. might change in the end the current investments plans, more that a few idiots throwing orange paint on a couple of business jets. .
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...and the OP knows FOR CERTAIN they are not EVangelists and used a disgusting ICE...
However I agree with them but the tactics wrong. Now if they had climbed on a Electric Public Transport machine in the rush hour 🙂
However back to my trusty two wheeled steed that is powered by myself from a couple of hours toiling only my allotment..
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Protestors paint Taylor Swift private jet

https://t.co/UwALfVtRmR https://t.co/aORdvUuQmU" / X

Err, hello, security, anyone? Maybe they did a good thing by highlighting the lax nature of airfield security in the country.

(please move, posted in wrong forum)
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On a slightly different point, its great to see the quality of aviation based reporting is as good as ever. Apparently Stansted has a private airfield (I can't post links so here is the wording) Just Stop Oil protesters target private airfield 'where Taylor Swift's jet landed hours earlier'

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They'll enjoy this news today.
BBC link
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Originally Posted by Pezza26
On a slightly different point, its great to see the quality of aviation based reporting is as good as ever. Apparently Stansted has a private airfield (I can post links so here is the wording) Just Stop Oil protesters target private airfield 'where Taylor Swift's jet landed hours earlier'
Ah, but then pedants can ask what this Stanstead Airfield is... versus Airport https://www.key.aero/forum/historic-...%20the%20above.
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I sincerely hope that the owners sue them for the cost of repainting the aircraft
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Quote “I bet that couple and their ilk won't spray stuff at Glasto and other "holy events" in their calendar. All those eco people at Glasto and look at the sheer amount of mess left each year. It makes an Indian slum look clean.”
But they enjoy the music powered by huge amounts of electricity, or generators, with the Beeb always there at the expense of ordinary licence payers, trains powered by diesel, no OHL in the vicinity. Waste disposal vehicle = diesel. ⛽️
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StansteAd Airport - where, exactly is that ?
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Aviation Security Act 1982 - intentional damage to aircraft - life imprisonment
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Aviation Security Act 1982 - intentional damage to aircraft - life imprisonment
I probably can bet 100 British pounds they won't get a fraction of that penalty... maybe if they did it to Rishi's jet or Taylor Swift's (Swifties would kill them anyway)...
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From their statement…

​​​​It said: “Continuing to burn coal, oil and gas will result in the death of millions. We have to come together to defend humanity, or we risk everything. That’s why Just Stop Oil is demanding that our next government sign up to a legally binding treaty to phase out fossil fuels by 2030.”​​​
A glance at my calendar shows that 2030 is 5 1/2 years away. Could anyone from JSO explain how this would be achieved?
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Was the paint oil based ?

Glad that security is so tight - makes me feel very safe and thankful for all the airport security we go through inside the terminal, only to literally allow people to get onto the ramp unnoticed and unchallenged outside it.

CCTV cameras ?, Security patrols ? anyone............?
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