UAL 767 smoke, evac @ IAD
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UAL 767 smoke, evac @ IAD
Justice Ginsburg slides to safety off airplane - FOX19 News and Weather - Greater Cincinnati Area
Sounds like a tailpipe fire on startup / fuel "loose" in the LPT. CC aren't supposed to initiate evac for this, are they?
Sounds like a tailpipe fire on startup / fuel "loose" in the LPT. CC aren't supposed to initiate evac for this, are they?
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That was my first thought. Why did they evacuate out of the rear right slides? They must have had a reason. I used all 4 slides one day with a bomb threat and our Chief Pilot questioned why me, a new captain, elected to use all 4 slides when the bomb was set for 2500 ft. I said because they are not FAA approved bombs and the altimiters are old and could stick unless you wait for them to go off. Besides, I asked for push up stairs so we didn't have to use the slides but with 10 minutes advance notice on downwind at LAX nobody got us any. Never heard another word.
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Thats right Mr Spotty, read the "highly accurate and technically correct" information provided by the news media, then second guess the flight crew who were actually there...nice one
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Hey, ironbutt57, there's something to be learned by all from this evac, and while the known facts are limited, Spotty has put forth what many of us are thinking. This being R&N, his comment is not out of place.
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In THEORY it is considered unwise to evacuate on the same side as a fire. In practice, there are other variables to consider. Basically, if an exit is usable and not affected by fire then it should be used to evacuate. Airtours B737 disaster at Manchester changed the thinking on this a LONG time ago!!
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It looks like an overreaction by the crew in my opinion.
The pilot took the decision to evacuate, and would have had good reason to do so. It's been discussed many times before on here the pros/cons to evacuating vs waiting for stairs to disembark passengers.
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Nice - they evacuate the passengers and then drive (with the slides?) to the terminal / airbridge...?
But better safe then sorry, assuming that a fire will kill more then an evacuation.
But better safe then sorry, assuming that a fire will kill more then an evacuation.
I appreciate this is your opinion, but on what are you basing it?
The pilot took the decision to evacuate, and would have had good reason to do so. It's been discussed many times before on here the pros/cons to evacuating vs waiting for stairs to disembark passengers.
The pilot took the decision to evacuate, and would have had good reason to do so. It's been discussed many times before on here the pros/cons to evacuating vs waiting for stairs to disembark passengers.
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are we sure that it was a pilot decision and not initiated by the cabin?
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Another passenger, Susannah Fox, said in an email to The Associated Press that the evacuation itself was "calm and orderly" and that passengers retrieved carry-on belongings row-by-row.
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Agree, the typical way that it's handled. However I was struck by the quote below in the first news article
course it doesn't confirm when this was done.
Pilots decide when to evacuate; individual CC decide which doors to use (in my company). CC base that decision on their observation through their tiny little window, not easy
Agree, the typical way that it's handled. However I was struck by the quote below in the first news article
Later, she posted, "Attendants opened rear door to see where smoke was coming from. They then very loudly started yelling 'everyone get out.' Very scary."
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Adjacent passenger cabin windows should also be used to assess the extent of any external fire before deciding whether an exit is safe to use to evacuate. The 'wide angle' window on most a/c doors are not really fit for purpose.
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Another passenger, Susannah Fox, said in an email to The Associated Press that the evacuation itself was "calm and orderly" and that passengers retrieved carry-on belongings row-by-row.
