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Old 2nd Jul 2024, 18:31
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Originally Posted by Robbiee
,..and I accept that smaller margin of error, and fly my budget helicopter accordingly.

As for SFAR 73? That came about because the early pilots of the R22 were ex-military who tried to fly it like it was a Huey. If you drive your '79 Pinto like a Corvette, you're probably going to wreck it, plain and simple.



Well, you're supose to slow down before you enter an area prone to high turbulance (or are you saying this just suddenly hit you at only like 1,000agl on a completely calm day?)

Anyway, there's always the guy who's almost crashed that declares, "Had I been in a Robby, I'd be dead",...and sure, maybe YOU would, but I've had my ass kicked around plenty in the R22 by wind and turbulence, without incident (or even low-g). Maybe its just luck, maybe its not, but I've flown too many Robby's to blame the aircraft's design at this point.

Sure, the R44 can go 130kts, but would you really want to drive a Pinto that fast?
Hardly any ex Vietnamvets left, and loads of Robbietrained pilots now, so if it has no meaning anymore, surely the FAA would remove the limit on the Pinto…..

From your response I take it you don’t know what Clear Air Turbulence is…. And take my word for it, you don’t want to experience that in your Pinto….

Luck is something that eventually your run out of, and you don’t know how much you have to begin with or have left.

As I’ve said I don’t drive the Pinto anymore, but did when I was young and uninformed….

Then again, someone said **** just happens, so you’re probably fine…

Fly safe!
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Old 2nd Jul 2024, 19:05
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Originally Posted by Nubian
if it has no meaning anymore, surely the FAA would remove the limit on the Pinto…..
SFAR 26 (TSOs) expired in 1977 and wasn't removed from the FARs until something like 2002. It's a big ship with a tiny rudder.
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Old 3rd Jul 2024, 02:05
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Have had the questionable experience to been caught in CAT in a Jetranger that almost put me upside down
Like wise Nubian, a 206 on fixed floats, turned around and said I'm done for the day.

Friend had been riding back seat while two airforce pilots did their thing, hopped out to let them continue, on the next flight they had a deadly mast bumb and died, result of aggresive manoeuvering. Air force had a second similar deadly event.

In Vietnam our unit had one mast bumb incident by a chap doing a cyclic climb, four crew and ten pax dead.

Have a lot of time in the Bell teetering head models and have total faith and accept the limits, though there are none laid down, in the same manner as fixed wing stall speeds,"G" limits and accelerated stalls.

You wont get me in a Robbie though, despite folk with thousands of hours in the machine.
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Old 3rd Jul 2024, 02:45
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Megan, those would have been the 2 Hueys in D442?

I had 5000 hrs on various Bell machines before I put on an R22. I said to myself, "Self! WTF are you doing??" but 1500 R22 hrs later I was still alive. Probably instead of being bold and wild, I was meek and mild. Didn't see the inside of another one for 15 years until I had to take a prospective instructor through his 40 hours. I actually almost enjoyed it.
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