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I'm Australian CASA Aeroplane CPL wanting to convert an FAA CPL (H) to
CASA. I have to do all the CASA CPL (H) exams except NAV, MET and CHUF.
I've seen three sources of material, Bob Tait, PilotPracticExams and AdvancedFlightTheory
I am studying this from overseas, and would like to hear from someone who is familiar with
these three sources and what combination of resources should be used especially for the
COSH exam.
Is there a published breakdown of the number of questions for the different areas of the exams such
as the COSH , CADH, CSYH, CFPH exams?
CASA. I have to do all the CASA CPL (H) exams except NAV, MET and CHUF.
I've seen three sources of material, Bob Tait, PilotPracticExams and AdvancedFlightTheory
I am studying this from overseas, and would like to hear from someone who is familiar with
these three sources and what combination of resources should be used especially for the
COSH exam.
Is there a published breakdown of the number of questions for the different areas of the exams such
as the COSH , CADH, CSYH, CFPH exams?
Last edited by CFI_CYWG; 5th Jun 2024 at 15:12.
Have a look at this link.
https://advancedflighttheory.com.au/...t-map-package/
All the law documents can be downloaded from the net for free, take it to a print shop and ask them to bind it . You are allowed to take it in the exam.
They all do practise "cyber exams"
https://advancedflighttheory.com.au/...t-map-package/
All the law documents can be downloaded from the net for free, take it to a print shop and ask them to bind it . You are allowed to take it in the exam.
They all do practise "cyber exams"
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Thanks ,
The casa link has all the downloads, VTC's ERS etc. the lot.
I've printed some of them.
I spoke with them. Its $350 for the COSH exam prep.
I'm amazed at the job opportunities
The casa link has all the downloads, VTC's ERS etc. the lot.
I've printed some of them.
I spoke with them. Its $350 for the COSH exam prep.
I'm amazed at the job opportunities
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I have an Aeroplane CPL. When I send in the application form for conversion,
I believe I will arrive back with a Helicopter Private Licence until I do
the CPL assessment, COSH, CHUF and a flight test for a CPL (H)
then Instructor assessment
An uknown amount of training
I've heard of a UK instructor being told to do 10 hours
As I've allready have a CASA aeroplane instructor
I'd appreciate knowing the secret mandatory minimums of CASA
of required training for foreign instructors.
I believe I will arrive back with a Helicopter Private Licence until I do
the CPL assessment, COSH, CHUF and a flight test for a CPL (H)
then Instructor assessment
An uknown amount of training
I've heard of a UK instructor being told to do 10 hours
As I've allready have a CASA aeroplane instructor
I'd appreciate knowing the secret mandatory minimums of CASA
of required training for foreign instructors.
I take it the phone lines at CASA are down at the moment?
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I'm getting confused with both of your recent posts.
Can you answer the following :
Have got a CASA CPL A
Have you Got a FAA CPL H
Have you got a FAA Instructor Rating (helicopter)
Can you answer the following :
Have got a CASA CPL A
Have you Got a FAA CPL H
Have you got a FAA Instructor Rating (helicopter)
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Yes, ersa, I did post that I have a CASA CPL A, an FAA CPL H with an H instructor rating.
I expect to do an Aeroplane Class one instructor renewal with multi engine and instrument training approval.
I wrote to CASA requesting an explanation of how they assess required trainng for conversions.
CASA as usual did not answer the question in an email but sent me a link, to one of their documents
that I have not seen before
https://www.casa.gov.au/sites/defaul...ing-manual.pdf
At Page 100 , it describes how they "assess each case". It effectively penalizes a foreign instructor rating.
Australia requires a minimum of 35 hours of Duel.
The FAA have no minimum hours but require having completed training in a long list of "areas of operation"
that includes 5 hours of instrument training.
CASA then as a "minimum" require the Australian minimum of 35 hours of flight training, and it appears ground training
that may well all be required in a Helicopter.
As usual, CASA is effectively engaged in "Denial" of the fact that other countries produce effective instructors
without stating a minimum amount of training.
I asked around and found one example of a UK helicopter instructor who had experience instructing in the UK who
CASA required to do 10 hours of Flight Training , despite the fact that the UK is 30 Hours of Flight Training.
That is CASA calculated the difference in flight instructor training of 5 hours and added, an additional 5 hours.
CASA apparently, "assumes" that a foreign instructor rating is not equal to an Australian instructor rating because it
has
(a) a lower amount of hours
(b) that foreign training is inferior to Australian training.
(c) a flawed assumption that hours of training equate to standard of proficiency
If you read for example the FAA airman certifiation standards it reads almost identical to the CASA flight test standards
CASA's silence on key statements is evidence of their failure to apply common sense
CASA have a real problem in failing to present relevant information compared to the FAA or Transport Canada
both of whom are effective communicators compared to CASA and don't refer to themselves as "Officers".
Example: An Aeroplane or Helicopter Instructor ratings both have a great deal in common.
CASA require the same written exam.
CASA require the same amount of almost identical ground training
CASA flight test standards are almost identical between Aeroplane and Helicopter.
To my knowledge there is NO CREDIT for having an Aeroplane Instructor Rating.
CASA require you to "prove" that you "meet the training requirements"
So if you hold a "foreign helicopter instructor rating" AND a CASA Aeroplane instructor rating
then we are asking CASA to make a "Judicious" "valid" judgement of "Additional training required"
Here is my take on, CASA rightly fall back on the legislation, each time, they change the legislation
to suit themselves, to unnecessarily increase the number of "ratings", training requirements that
defy logical reasoning and common sense.
The application for conversion of a foreign licence or rating assumes that your foreign training is
written and recorded in the same format as CASA.
Thats a flawed assumption.
If you look at log books of instructors from the USA, they look like gibberish, it appears
that the instructor may have done next to no applicable training.
On the far right of the log book entry, there is the name of the instructor, his or her signature, and their certificate number
and right before the flight test, an indication that it is the recomendation for the flight test.
Its that final signature that says that the person has completed "all the required training"
which is dam near identical to the CASA requirements.
CASA "assessors" or decision makers, obviously need the material to help them make
decisions.
Its obvous that the application alone and even exhibits are insufficient to sufficiently make out the case to CASA.
Its going to need an explanation that is a legal pleading that would be the basis of a legal appeal if necessary.
I'm thinking that an application for a foreign instructor conversion would be enhanced by
a sworn affidavit with exhibits..
Comments and suggestions greatefully appreciated.
I expect to do an Aeroplane Class one instructor renewal with multi engine and instrument training approval.
I wrote to CASA requesting an explanation of how they assess required trainng for conversions.
CASA as usual did not answer the question in an email but sent me a link, to one of their documents
that I have not seen before
https://www.casa.gov.au/sites/defaul...ing-manual.pdf
At Page 100 , it describes how they "assess each case". It effectively penalizes a foreign instructor rating.
Australia requires a minimum of 35 hours of Duel.
The FAA have no minimum hours but require having completed training in a long list of "areas of operation"
that includes 5 hours of instrument training.
CASA then as a "minimum" require the Australian minimum of 35 hours of flight training, and it appears ground training
that may well all be required in a Helicopter.
As usual, CASA is effectively engaged in "Denial" of the fact that other countries produce effective instructors
without stating a minimum amount of training.
I asked around and found one example of a UK helicopter instructor who had experience instructing in the UK who
CASA required to do 10 hours of Flight Training , despite the fact that the UK is 30 Hours of Flight Training.
That is CASA calculated the difference in flight instructor training of 5 hours and added, an additional 5 hours.
CASA apparently, "assumes" that a foreign instructor rating is not equal to an Australian instructor rating because it
has
(a) a lower amount of hours
(b) that foreign training is inferior to Australian training.
(c) a flawed assumption that hours of training equate to standard of proficiency
If you read for example the FAA airman certifiation standards it reads almost identical to the CASA flight test standards
CASA's silence on key statements is evidence of their failure to apply common sense
CASA have a real problem in failing to present relevant information compared to the FAA or Transport Canada
both of whom are effective communicators compared to CASA and don't refer to themselves as "Officers".
Example: An Aeroplane or Helicopter Instructor ratings both have a great deal in common.
CASA require the same written exam.
CASA require the same amount of almost identical ground training
CASA flight test standards are almost identical between Aeroplane and Helicopter.
To my knowledge there is NO CREDIT for having an Aeroplane Instructor Rating.
CASA require you to "prove" that you "meet the training requirements"
So if you hold a "foreign helicopter instructor rating" AND a CASA Aeroplane instructor rating
then we are asking CASA to make a "Judicious" "valid" judgement of "Additional training required"
Here is my take on, CASA rightly fall back on the legislation, each time, they change the legislation
to suit themselves, to unnecessarily increase the number of "ratings", training requirements that
defy logical reasoning and common sense.
The application for conversion of a foreign licence or rating assumes that your foreign training is
written and recorded in the same format as CASA.
Thats a flawed assumption.
If you look at log books of instructors from the USA, they look like gibberish, it appears
that the instructor may have done next to no applicable training.
On the far right of the log book entry, there is the name of the instructor, his or her signature, and their certificate number
and right before the flight test, an indication that it is the recomendation for the flight test.
Its that final signature that says that the person has completed "all the required training"
which is dam near identical to the CASA requirements.
CASA "assessors" or decision makers, obviously need the material to help them make
decisions.
Its obvous that the application alone and even exhibits are insufficient to sufficiently make out the case to CASA.
Its going to need an explanation that is a legal pleading that would be the basis of a legal appeal if necessary.
I'm thinking that an application for a foreign instructor conversion would be enhanced by
a sworn affidavit with exhibits..
Comments and suggestions greatefully appreciated.
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The application for conversion of a foreign licence or rating assumes that your foreign training is
written and recorded in the same format as CASA.
Thats a flawed assumption.
written and recorded in the same format as CASA.
Thats a flawed assumption.
212man, ICAO SARP, are "suggestions" , ICAO is not superior legislation .
Fact is a typical US published log book is very different to an Australian log book.
Canadian log books are different again.
CASA ask for all sorts of breakdowns of flight times that most people out of Australia
do not record.
Fact is a typical US published log book is very different to an Australian log book.
Canadian log books are different again.
CASA ask for all sorts of breakdowns of flight times that most people out of Australia
do not record.
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212man.
Thank you for the informative reply.
I always appreciate constructive relevant replies and comments.
You might like to re-read my post and see that I carefullly researched a difficult question wth avaiable CASA documents
and shared with everyone here, the CASA document that contained the answer.
Thank you for the informative reply.
I always appreciate constructive relevant replies and comments.
You might like to re-read my post and see that I carefullly researched a difficult question wth avaiable CASA documents
and shared with everyone here, the CASA document that contained the answer.
To answer your question ,
What you have is a CASA flight instructor rating with an Aeroplane category endorsement
What you need is a Helicopter category endorsement , connected to that are the training endorsements.
So you have an FAA Helicopter instructor rating , you will need to find a flight school, that teaches instructor ratings, they can give you RPL based on your experience .
Instructor rating come in 3 types
Grade 1 , Grade 2 and grade 3. It's highly likely once passing the training you will be awarded a grade 2 , it's based on hours instructed.( how many hours instructing do you have helicopter ?)
Generally instructor rating are between 30-40 hours in flight and same on ground school.
What you have is a CASA flight instructor rating with an Aeroplane category endorsement
What you need is a Helicopter category endorsement , connected to that are the training endorsements.
So you have an FAA Helicopter instructor rating , you will need to find a flight school, that teaches instructor ratings, they can give you RPL based on your experience .
Instructor rating come in 3 types
Grade 1 , Grade 2 and grade 3. It's highly likely once passing the training you will be awarded a grade 2 , it's based on hours instructed.( how many hours instructing do you have helicopter ?)
Generally instructor rating are between 30-40 hours in flight and same on ground school.
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Thanks ersa,
Please email me at CFICYWG at Gmail
It appears I first need to have a Valid Class One Aeroplane Instructor rating.
2004 CAAO 40.7 No. 48 indicates that an Applicant who has or has held a Class 1 Aeroplane Flight Instructor Rating
(1) can have a 20 hour reduction in the Instructor Flight Training Required with 15 hours duel
with a Class 1 flight instructor and 5 hours may be with a Class 2 or with another trainee instructor.
(2) An applicant with a Valid Foreign Flight Instructor Rating Helicopter which required a 40 hour course of training
that is the equivlent of Australian syllibus
AND
does 10 hours with a Class 1 Flight Instructor under an AOC to do flight instructor training,
can be exempt from the 40 hour Flight Instructor training requirement.
So, can CASA combine the credits? That is, a 20 hour reduction because of an Aeroplane Instructor rating
and another credit for the hours of "Foreign Flight Instructor Training" that resulted in the issue of a foreign flight instructor rating.
The document gets specific at 8.6
"If the Applicant for a flight instructor (helicopter) rating grade 2 who holds or has held an overseas instructor authorization
has received not les than 40 hours of flight instructor training in helicopters "
and
"not less than 10 hours DUEL FLIGHT INSTRUCTION from a flight instructor at a flying school
which has the approval to conduct flight instructor training endorsed on its AOC.
" He or She is EXEMPT from compliance with subparagraph 4.2(c) "
Similary if CASA is "not satisfied" it "must refuse to grant an exemption"
From a Canadian perspective, Canada does NOT extend the same consideration
to Australian instructors, all foreign instructors have a simple requirement to do
15 hours duel and 10 hours ground. For the initial instructor rating to allow unsupervised
or freelance ability, they have to have 750 hours abinitio instructing experience.
The Australian and Canadian requiremets are very similar and it begs a bilateral agreement.
From the USA perspective, its up to the recommending instructor for the flight test
I just can't see Australia doing a bi-lateral with the USA on flight instructor ratings.
and there is a lot of new very different ground work that needs be covered first.
Please email me at CFICYWG at Gmail
It appears I first need to have a Valid Class One Aeroplane Instructor rating.
2004 CAAO 40.7 No. 48 indicates that an Applicant who has or has held a Class 1 Aeroplane Flight Instructor Rating
(1) can have a 20 hour reduction in the Instructor Flight Training Required with 15 hours duel
with a Class 1 flight instructor and 5 hours may be with a Class 2 or with another trainee instructor.
(2) An applicant with a Valid Foreign Flight Instructor Rating Helicopter which required a 40 hour course of training
that is the equivlent of Australian syllibus
AND
does 10 hours with a Class 1 Flight Instructor under an AOC to do flight instructor training,
can be exempt from the 40 hour Flight Instructor training requirement.
So, can CASA combine the credits? That is, a 20 hour reduction because of an Aeroplane Instructor rating
and another credit for the hours of "Foreign Flight Instructor Training" that resulted in the issue of a foreign flight instructor rating.
The document gets specific at 8.6
"If the Applicant for a flight instructor (helicopter) rating grade 2 who holds or has held an overseas instructor authorization
has received not les than 40 hours of flight instructor training in helicopters "
and
"not less than 10 hours DUEL FLIGHT INSTRUCTION from a flight instructor at a flying school
which has the approval to conduct flight instructor training endorsed on its AOC.
" He or She is EXEMPT from compliance with subparagraph 4.2(c) "
Similary if CASA is "not satisfied" it "must refuse to grant an exemption"
From a Canadian perspective, Canada does NOT extend the same consideration
to Australian instructors, all foreign instructors have a simple requirement to do
15 hours duel and 10 hours ground. For the initial instructor rating to allow unsupervised
or freelance ability, they have to have 750 hours abinitio instructing experience.
The Australian and Canadian requiremets are very similar and it begs a bilateral agreement.
From the USA perspective, its up to the recommending instructor for the flight test
I just can't see Australia doing a bi-lateral with the USA on flight instructor ratings.
and there is a lot of new very different ground work that needs be covered first.
