Millionaire helicopter pilots to ferry emergency services...
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Absolutely 500e, not quite the same as our rich bloke and a few mates....
"Sheriff Chuck Curry is a critical care paramedic, pilot, aircraft owner, and spent twenty-six years working on the ALERT helicopter while also serving as the undersheriff of Flathead County. Undersheriff Jordan White is an emergency medical technician, pilot, aircraft owner, and spent three years as the search and rescue coordinator for the sheriff’s office. They both have backgrounds in special weapons and tactics and have managed critical incidents all over Flathead County as well as assisting surrounding jurisdictions. Jim Pierce, owner of Red Eagle Aviation, partnered with the sheriff’s office several years ago to facilitate the launch of our aviation program. He has dedicated his helicopter, experience, and resources to prove the efficiency of a more proactive aviation response program. The directors and members understand the importance of prompt response and the risk involved in complicated emergency operations."
http://embracefear.com/press/Aviatio...0-%20FINAL.pdf
Oh, and one thing not mentioned here yet,
F.E.A.R is an approved 501c3 tax-exempt organization.
F.E.A.R.
Private aerial rescue group takes off - Daily Inter Lake: Local/Montana
Not quite the same but
Not quite the same but
Absolutely 500e, not quite the same as our rich bloke and a few mates....
"Sheriff Chuck Curry is a critical care paramedic, pilot, aircraft owner, and spent twenty-six years working on the ALERT helicopter while also serving as the undersheriff of Flathead County. Undersheriff Jordan White is an emergency medical technician, pilot, aircraft owner, and spent three years as the search and rescue coordinator for the sheriff’s office. They both have backgrounds in special weapons and tactics and have managed critical incidents all over Flathead County as well as assisting surrounding jurisdictions. Jim Pierce, owner of Red Eagle Aviation, partnered with the sheriff’s office several years ago to facilitate the launch of our aviation program. He has dedicated his helicopter, experience, and resources to prove the efficiency of a more proactive aviation response program. The directors and members understand the importance of prompt response and the risk involved in complicated emergency operations."
http://embracefear.com/press/Aviatio...0-%20FINAL.pdf
Oh, and one thing not mentioned here yet,
F.E.A.R is an approved 501c3 tax-exempt organization.
F.E.A.R.
As they have special weapons and tatics experience does that mean i should invite JP to get a MELB (Mission Enhanced Little Bird) instead of his normal 500 E. Now with nearly an extra 2000 lbs lift capability over his E model he could do many more things, perhaps undersling a thunderbirds pod with TB 4 in it for flood rescue ?
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....undersling a thunderbirds pod with TB 4 in it ....
Oh, and the Mole for mine and pothole rescue.
Ah, don't forget the 60-odd ton capacity, 150mph trio of remote control skates in case of undercarriage failure of an exotic new airliner.
If we're going to do it, we might as well do it properly.
Mr Dementia ... You make it look like Shy and TC are a couple ....not sure how they would feel about that 
I have actually been away the last few weeks flying SAR in the Indian Oceon ( illegally of course ) ....... I was thinking of offering my 109 for the built up area jobs but I don't work for nothing .... Maybe you could fly it for me TC , or are you now too old for single pilot ops ???!!!
I have actually been away the last few weeks flying SAR in the Indian Oceon ( illegally of course ) ....... I was thinking of offering my 109 for the built up area jobs but I don't work for nothing .... Maybe you could fly it for me TC , or are you now too old for single pilot ops ???!!!
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There's an upper age limit for this sort of thing?
Maybe you could fly it for me TC , or are you now too old for single pilot ops ???!!!
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From sky news:
I'm not sure, that's accurate. A friend of mine wanted to volunteer a while ago. A trivial internet search turns up examples of volunteer services (Peterborough).
The RNLI is a good example of what can be done with volunteers. It's just a question of committment, selection and training, isn't it? There's certainly a decent number of retired, skilled baby boomers around who need to do something. The National Trust can't take them all
And homonculus addresses the need/requirement, but there's there two parts to this, donating money and donating time. The evolution (revival?) of CSR means that the latter is also becoming far more common in small quantities.
But Tam McFarlane from the Fire Brigades Union is not supportive of the idea: "The public rely entirely on a professional fire and rescue service so we have to be accountable to the public. Accountable financially to the public as well.
The RNLI is a good example of what can be done with volunteers. It's just a question of committment, selection and training, isn't it? There's certainly a decent number of retired, skilled baby boomers around who need to do something. The National Trust can't take them all
And homonculus addresses the need/requirement, but there's there two parts to this, donating money and donating time. The evolution (revival?) of CSR means that the latter is also becoming far more common in small quantities.
I often see wealthy benefactors desperate to help hospitals. One of the most difficult issues is to direct their money where it is needed not where they think it is needed. Given that this is most likely the case here, Mr P needs wise council from a senior fire officer but not the understandable slagging he is getting here
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The head of Wiltshire Fire service really needs to read these pages. He speaks of Mr P's expertise in the area, and doesn't realise that neither the aircraft, or the pilot are right for the task.
As for the fly past, well done Mr P, I hope you had Rule 5 clearance for that. I'm afraid you've gone from nice bloke, good idea, needs a lot more thought and planning, to buffoon in my eyes.
FWF made a very pertinent comment when he discussed selection and training, flying for any emergency service needs a cool head and an ability to issue a forthright NO when pushed beyond the limits of sense or safety.
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As for the fly past, well done Mr P, I hope you had Rule 5 clearance for that. I'm afraid you've gone from nice bloke, good idea, needs a lot more thought and planning, to buffoon in my eyes.
FWF made a very pertinent comment when he discussed selection and training, flying for any emergency service needs a cool head and an ability to issue a forthright NO when pushed beyond the limits of sense or safety.
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Nice way to demonstrate breach of Rule 5 at 1.07
well done Mr P, I hope you had Rule 5 clearance for that.
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I'm not sure you need a rule 5 exemption to fly past your own land site.
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WTF was he doing, a run and break?
Gotta love the badges on the flying suit!!!
Any rumour that he has applied for vehicle (blue light) dispensations, for 'emergency' use?
I'm not sure you need a rule 5 exemption to fly past your own land site.
WTF was he doing, a run and break?
Gotta love the badges on the flying suit!!!
Any rumour that he has applied for vehicle (blue light) dispensations, for 'emergency' use?
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So, despite the title of the Sky report and all the other hype, the title of this thread is the reality of the proposal. Ferrying not fighting!
What I don't understand is, on the Wiltshire Fire Service website it tells us;
Yet on the Sky News page it tells us;
3 days a week - "3 minute standby to launch, fly to Trowbridge Fire Station, pick up 'staff and equipment' and take them to anywhere within the county in under 16 minutes."
So, shout given, 3 mins to launch, fly from Lower Mills Estate to Trowbridge (25 miles - 15 mins) load up kit & pax 10 mins!, fly to incident max 16 mins.
Have I missed something?
Wiltshire Fire & Rescue can get to any incident in the county within 20 minutes, Thunderbirds make it in 44 mins, as long as everything goes smoothly.
Anyway, this is the Trowbridge station/landing site;
What I don't understand is, on the Wiltshire Fire Service website it tells us;
Wiltshire Fire & Rescue Service use this as their standard front line fire engine, therefore it is normally the first appliance to arrive at an incident. Due to this fact it was designed to deliver the maximum number of firefighters to an incident in the shortest time, with the versatility to be able to cope with the variety of incidents that make up modern day firefighting. With this in mind, it is not surprising to find that the Dennis Sabre is the fastest appliance in the FRS's fleet, able to reach any urban area within 10 minutes and any rural area within 20 minutes.
... it can take fire crews over an hour to reach the most remote parts of Wiltshire.
3 days a week - "3 minute standby to launch, fly to Trowbridge Fire Station, pick up 'staff and equipment' and take them to anywhere within the county in under 16 minutes."
So, shout given, 3 mins to launch, fly from Lower Mills Estate to Trowbridge (25 miles - 15 mins) load up kit & pax 10 mins!, fly to incident max 16 mins.
Have I missed something?
Wiltshire Fire & Rescue can get to any incident in the county within 20 minutes, Thunderbirds make it in 44 mins, as long as everything goes smoothly.
Anyway, this is the Trowbridge station/landing site;
Earlier on in this thread I just thought he was a prat
Crab...
For once we agree... although I suspect we agree on more issues than we disagree upon... But lets not ruin the fun and admit it..... 
Earlier on in this thread I just thought he was a prat
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You have missed something ! The film shows his pad on the Thames at Reading, so I think you need to add a bit more time on to get to Trowbridge.
I would think the following for a time appreciation, assuming the ac has had a check A first thing and an internal systems check
To start up and get a 500 in the air if it is first start then you have a 2 minute oil stabilisation before engine run up, so you would have to allow 4 minutes from getting in to actually being airbourne ( thats very quick)
Reading to Trowbridge at 120 kts about 50nm or 25 mins
recce and land at Trowbridge ( not that you are allowed to at station) 3 mins
So at the very best we have a time of 32 minutes before he has gone anywhere let alone the time to stop what you are doing and get to the machine
As i told him nice idea in an ideal world but doesnt really work !
You have missed something ! The film shows his pad on the Thames at Reading, so I think you need to add a bit more time on to get to Trowbridge.
I would think the following for a time appreciation, assuming the ac has had a check A first thing and an internal systems check
To start up and get a 500 in the air if it is first start then you have a 2 minute oil stabilisation before engine run up, so you would have to allow 4 minutes from getting in to actually being airbourne ( thats very quick)
Reading to Trowbridge at 120 kts about 50nm or 25 mins
recce and land at Trowbridge ( not that you are allowed to at station) 3 mins
So at the very best we have a time of 32 minutes before he has gone anywhere let alone the time to stop what you are doing and get to the machine
As i told him nice idea in an ideal world but doesnt really work !