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Old 25th Jun 2012, 06:54
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I stand corected - sloppy language on my part. The exemption from ANY of the rules in 5(2) is given in 5(3)(a)(i) - licensed airfields only.

The question of whether this is a congested area or not is better answered by posting a pic (photo or map) showing the site.
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Old 25th Jun 2012, 13:02
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Nelly,

The rule 5 you have posted is out of date.

Although there hasn't been much change, Rule 5 relates to Low Flying Prohibitions, Rule 6 relates to Exemptions from Rule 5.

The Land Clear rule is in relation to Congested Areas ONLY. "An aircraft flying over a congested area of a city, town or settlement shall not fly below such height as would permit the aircraft to land clear of the congested area in the event of a power unit failure."

So two engines would help as the second one can get you clear OR you're going to need to be able to glide clear.

Rule 6 says that; "Any helicopter flying over a congested area shall be exempt from the land clear rule."

BUT in any event "An aircraft shall not be flown below such height as would enable it to make an emergency landing without causing danger to persons or property on the surface in the event of a power unit failure."

You're mentioned site is confined if you don't have sufficient space to transition in a manner that keeps you out of the H/V Curve for your aircraft.

From you're description it sounds confined but NOT congested (although a photo would help). Therefore the 1000ft rule does not apply and neither does the 500ft rule if you're landings/taking off. BUT the land clear rule does apply - so flying low and slow over someones house is not acceptable.

The wires are property but it is perfectly acceptable and possible to fly over them without endangering them in the event of a power unit failure - by doing so however you might be putting yourself and aircraft at risk in the event of an engine failure - and you have to decide whether that is something you want to do. Hopefully you we're taught to cross wires over the poles and with some extra height. Crossing at a 45 degree angle can also give you options to break left or right over the wires in the event of a problem as opposed to straight ahead into them.

The latest ANO;

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/CAP393.pdf

regards, MB
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Old 25th Jun 2012, 15:31
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I think I will put it in the back garden then ...
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