Jay Kay Video - R44 v 2.7RS
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Thats bloody diabolical. I'm absolutely disgusted at this. Its completely irresponsible especially considering that he is a well known celebrity and his actions are likely to be seen by millions of people around the world. I simply can't believe what a bad example this sets to the aviation community.
For G-D's sake can't somebody in authority do something about this. I mean come-on for one thing, a man in his position should be able to afford something more than an R44 and secondly, fancy painting it green and silver !
The flying's great though, so he has redeemed himself somewhat !!!
Joel
For G-D's sake can't somebody in authority do something about this. I mean come-on for one thing, a man in his position should be able to afford something more than an R44 and secondly, fancy painting it green and silver !
The flying's great though, so he has redeemed himself somewhat !!!
Joel
...a man in his position should be able to afford something more than an R44...
...Mickey Mouse helicopter...
I agree, not the greatest example of flying but how many of his teenage audience will really affected by this? And how many 000's of other 'unaceptable' heli vids are there on YouTube?!
I know G-JKAY and its owner quite well; it's not about what you can afford, but what provides you with what you need. Most smart folk can 'afford' to buy something that delivers more than they actually need, but choose value instead.
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I can't quite work out the logic/finances of this - the reg on the R44 in the video would suggest it is his machine but the video appears to have been shot overseas (?USA). Thus, would the cost of shipping his own helicopter abroad not negate any saving? Why not just rent a machine locally?
Of course, I may be mistaken and the arid landscape is in fact to be found within the UK...!
Simon
Of course, I may be mistaken and the arid landscape is in fact to be found within the UK...!
Simon
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My apologies, I'm not bashing the Robbie, but exploring the "if money were no object, what chopper would I have" and given that JK has a few quid (and is a petrolhead also) I thought he might have had something like an EC120 or even a twin.
However, if a Robbo is his chosen bit of kit then that's fine by me.
(And who mentioned the flying? Not meeeeee!)
Joel
My apologies, I'm not bashing the Robbie, but exploring the "if money were no object, what chopper would I have" and given that JK has a few quid (and is a petrolhead also) I thought he might have had something like an EC120 or even a twin.
However, if a Robbo is his chosen bit of kit then that's fine by me.
(And who mentioned the flying? Not meeeeee!)
Joel
Joel - I know you're not mate. You and I could easily 'afford' a more expensive machine, but personally, I'd rather keep spending the extra hard earned cash on my other toys 
What pi$$es me off are the anti-Robbie snobs; almost always non-owners who couldn't 'afford' to buy a chopper, not even a Robbie!!
And you're right - the flying's great!!!!
Shame he had to do the last bit to 'prove' it was him though. Tsssk - egos, eh?
What pi$$es me off are the anti-Robbie snobs; almost always non-owners who couldn't 'afford' to buy a chopper, not even a Robbie!!
And you're right - the flying's great!!!!
Shame he had to do the last bit to 'prove' it was him though. Tsssk - egos, eh?
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I'd love an R44, and I'd love a 911 2.7 Carrera RS. To be able to use them like this in Almeria is pretty cool too.
What I wouldn't want is an attitiude that seems to go with those that are more fortunate than others in the heli world. I would never guessed it is as bad as it is.
A car forum has a thread running on this at the moment, and nothing but positive comments (apart from those who don't like seeing the 911 on a dirt road).
Shame.
What I wouldn't want is an attitiude that seems to go with those that are more fortunate than others in the heli world. I would never guessed it is as bad as it is.
A car forum has a thread running on this at the moment, and nothing but positive comments (apart from those who don't like seeing the 911 on a dirt road).
Shame.
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What pi$$es me off are the anti-Robbie snobs; almost always non-owners who couldn't 'afford' to buy a chopper, not even a Robbie!!
It's not being snobbish; it's being realistic. They are not the be-all-and-end-all of private flying. Snobbery has nothing to do with it; that only appears to exist amongst the owners.
Cheers
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Well I can't afford to buy a Robbie but if I could, I wouldn't; I'd save up my pocket money for something else. And if I had JK's money, I'd buy a Jet Ranger
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I'm absolutely disgusted at this.
Good video and catchy song.
The R44 is a good machine to operate, it's fast,easy to fly,cheapish,only uses 60lts per hour and they are pretty tough if you keep an eye on the blades.
If I was in the market for a personal transport type I would pick the R44 over anything else on market today.
The R44 is a good machine to operate, it's fast,easy to fly,cheapish,only uses 60lts per hour and they are pretty tough if you keep an eye on the blades.
If I was in the market for a personal transport type I would pick the R44 over anything else on market today.
Whirls
We're in danger of getting mod'ed here for off-piste banter, but judging by the enormous volume of 'anti-robbie' posts I've read on PPRuNe over the years, the snobbish remarks are generally from those that fly more exotic machinery - which is generally owned by someone else!
JK could probably afford to buy any helicopter in the world, but he has an R44 - and that's the point; he's not a snob. Even if you (one) could afford to buy better kit, why would you necessarily want to? What you (one) can afford and what you (one) need is rarely aligned in a snob's world cos it's about image. If it's about being realistic, why have a 109? Do you really need a 109?! Or could it be that your (one's) ego is getting in the way of reality?!
I've owned two Robbies and a 206. The 44 is ugly, sounds like a tractor and has as much sophistication as Amy Whitehouse, but it's cheap, reliable, reasonably fast and, flown within limits, is a perfectly safe helicopter.
We're in danger of getting mod'ed here for off-piste banter, but judging by the enormous volume of 'anti-robbie' posts I've read on PPRuNe over the years, the snobbish remarks are generally from those that fly more exotic machinery - which is generally owned by someone else!
JK could probably afford to buy any helicopter in the world, but he has an R44 - and that's the point; he's not a snob. Even if you (one) could afford to buy better kit, why would you necessarily want to? What you (one) can afford and what you (one) need is rarely aligned in a snob's world cos it's about image. If it's about being realistic, why have a 109? Do you really need a 109?! Or could it be that your (one's) ego is getting in the way of reality?!
I've owned two Robbies and a 206. The 44 is ugly, sounds like a tractor and has as much sophistication as Amy Whitehouse, but it's cheap, reliable, reasonably fast and, flown within limits, is a perfectly safe helicopter.
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Reverseflight, don't get too worked up about flying out of trim. For starters, it has the potential to wreck the t/r blades, not the tailboom attach points. You are right that police departments have experienced this but I think that the 2 or so days spent filming, (mostly in trim), would be nothing in comparison to the hundreds of hours "performing orbits with a nose-left yaw (using additional left pedal input)" (R44 Safety Alert, 7th June 2007). Some of you Poms and Australian SPL(H)'s need to see what the Robinson products are capable of and I can assure you that Jay Kay is only scratching the surface. Good on him for doing so.
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Mickey Mouse helicopter and one of the greatest cars of all time.
BTW, I am qualified in both the R22 and R44 and still consider them to be a POS. Minimalist designs optimized for cheap and to just meet the certification requirements. Nothing wrong with that as long as one understands and accepts the tradeoffs, which are considerable. And, yes, ttb, I do own a helicopter.