Police test drone spy helicopters
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Mersey police drone on!
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The machines, which are flown by remote control or using pre-programmed GPS navigation systems, are silent
HTF do they get an egg-whisk to be silent?
I think we should be told . . .
Looks good in a clear day with no wind, how would it handle 40kts off the Irish sea with rain drops the same size as itself?
Onboard video looks good if low level but no good for evidence unless hovering next to the subject and by then it would be in the boot of their car or being advertised on ebay.
http://www.microdrones.com/downloads...boardvideo.wmv
Another folly from a senior officer trying to make a name for himself to get up the next run of the ladder.
Did they consult the aerial surveillance experts at the ASU being spending a money on this? Or is it being offered free to get a foothold in the market?
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Onboard video looks good if low level but no good for evidence unless hovering next to the subject and by then it would be in the boot of their car or being advertised on ebay.
http://www.microdrones.com/downloads...boardvideo.wmv
Another folly from a senior officer trying to make a name for himself to get up the next run of the ladder.
Did they consult the aerial surveillance experts at the ASU being spending a money on this? Or is it being offered free to get a foothold in the market?
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The local TV station tested this during this years "harbour anniversery" in Hamburg.
The local fire brigade and their fire boat had a lot of fun aiming at it with their water cannons
The local fire brigade and their fire boat had a lot of fun aiming at it with their water cannons
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I wonder how this would go down with the CAA having unmanned platforms flying around CAT A controlled airspace like most of Liverpool, Manchester,Luton etc etc. The first obvious point is the lack of see and avoid, unless they have some fail safe sense and avoid system. I think this is a no brainer to start with. Sounds like some company spending lots of money on the military application and now attempting to get more money out of law enforcement.
When Liverpool won the Champion's League in 05, the homecoming parade saw 3 news helis and at least 2 FW - plus the police ASU. All at around 1000-1500ft.
So - this Thursday could be interesting if there's a win in Athens Wed night!
What a crazy piece of PR. We all know the drone won't work - or produce any evidence that a court would accept.
So - this Thursday could be interesting if there's a win in Athens Wed night!
What a crazy piece of PR. We all know the drone won't work - or produce any evidence that a court would accept.
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Wonder what frequency they fly on? 
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Good point ST,
According to Ofcomm,
"The 35 MHz band is dedicated solely to aeronautical modelling."
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radiocomms/i...hnical/ofw311/
Of course, there will be a special Home Office type frequency for this purpose, but you can bet your bottom dollar that as soon as the drone is operational the wheels on Merseysides streets will be safe while the tills at Maplins tills ring out loud with the purchases of controller units and frequency chips.
Also being purchased will be TV signal receivers as,
"Telemetry can be transmitted from general, surface or air models back to the controller. The band is 433.050 to 434.790 MHz; the channel spacing is 25 kHz and the maximum radiated power is 10 mW."
You can just see it now....'HI Mum!'
Or for about £200 why not just jam the frequency!
http://www.spyreview.co.uk/2007/01/0...quency-jammer/
So thats that sorted. Stop messing about with radio controlled models, save the money and pay the real pilots more!
According to Ofcomm,
"The 35 MHz band is dedicated solely to aeronautical modelling."
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radiocomms/i...hnical/ofw311/
Of course, there will be a special Home Office type frequency for this purpose, but you can bet your bottom dollar that as soon as the drone is operational the wheels on Merseysides streets will be safe while the tills at Maplins tills ring out loud with the purchases of controller units and frequency chips.
Also being purchased will be TV signal receivers as,
"Telemetry can be transmitted from general, surface or air models back to the controller. The band is 433.050 to 434.790 MHz; the channel spacing is 25 kHz and the maximum radiated power is 10 mW."
You can just see it now....'HI Mum!'
Or for about £200 why not just jam the frequency!
http://www.spyreview.co.uk/2007/01/0...quency-jammer/
So thats that sorted. Stop messing about with radio controlled models, save the money and pay the real pilots more!
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Of course this isn't a new concept. I am surprised though that they aren't carrying on with the earlier technology, surely it was more suitable financially!
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It looks like something out of a catalogue.Hey plod have you got a frequency peg.If it's over 7kg it needs failsafes and permission to operate in CAS.So plod will break rules to fly it?
My little leckie heli doesn't fly too well when the Lipo runs out of juice.That thing will have the autorotation of a 500 pound bomb,and make a pretty good hole in someone's car,roof,or head.If one of those motors stops then you better get a crash helmet.Also aeromodellers try to avoid flying near jo public because of safety,so along come plod and smash one into someone.
Have a look in the ANO.It does apply to you as well.
It's a gimmick and they will crash so many,that it will pay for a proper chopper.A
holes
Ps.people have been killed by crashing model aircraft.
They nearly crashed it into the reporter on the clip I saw.
My little leckie heli doesn't fly too well when the Lipo runs out of juice.That thing will have the autorotation of a 500 pound bomb,and make a pretty good hole in someone's car,roof,or head.If one of those motors stops then you better get a crash helmet.Also aeromodellers try to avoid flying near jo public because of safety,so along come plod and smash one into someone.
Have a look in the ANO.It does apply to you as well.It's a gimmick and they will crash so many,that it will pay for a proper chopper.A
holesPs.people have been killed by crashing model aircraft.
They nearly crashed it into the reporter on the clip I saw.
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The only problem with using such technology at a Liverpool match is not finding the 'hot spots' where the hooligan element are, but which supporters are the offenders!!
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Sid, surely if they just fit the device with those boomerang blades off that stealth Australian R-22 they could play "bong a scouser" and the drone could then fly right back to the station, all by itself.
Now where's those 35Mhz crystals for the old radio gear? I've got a full set somewhere.
Sorry for any inappropriate language used - I know some Aussies take offence at the use of the word "bong". (The word "scouser" is fair game, AFAIK).
P.S. Thanks for that photo - I keep bursting out laughing at it
Now where's those 35Mhz crystals for the old radio gear? I've got a full set somewhere.
Sorry for any inappropriate language used - I know some Aussies take offence at the use of the word "bong". (The word "scouser" is fair game, AFAIK).
P.S. Thanks for that photo - I keep bursting out laughing at it
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Just something that occured to me while waiting for Mrs Sid to search the towns shops looking for something to look at! 
All well and good having a GPS position hold, but with a max speed of 15mph, how will that work in all but the stillest days.
Thermally, being over a city can't be the best environment and also isn't Liverpool still near the coast? Even now, EGGP 231150Z 26006KT 230V300 9999 BKN048 20/14 Q1022, with only a 6kt wind, that is half its max windspeed limit for the hover hold facility! With only an endurance of 20 mins, (at what power setting?) Surely, this will drop rapidly with a high wind and thermal lift vector.
All well and good having a GPS position hold, but with a max speed of 15mph, how will that work in all but the stillest days.
Thermally, being over a city can't be the best environment and also isn't Liverpool still near the coast? Even now, EGGP 231150Z 26006KT 230V300 9999 BKN048 20/14 Q1022, with only a 6kt wind, that is half its max windspeed limit for the hover hold facility! With only an endurance of 20 mins, (at what power setting?) Surely, this will drop rapidly with a high wind and thermal lift vector.
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OK, hope this makes sense.
Find the url of piccie
If it's on a webpage right click on it and go to 'properties' at bottom of list.
Where it says address (url) copy all of the adress from 'http' to '.jpg/gif' inclusive.
In the reply box you will see a picture of a mountain
Click on that and paste the copied url into the box that pops up.
Click OK and there you go, the pictures url will have [IMG] and [/IMG] either side of it.
The picture has to be uploaded somewhere, so you may need a hosting service like photobucket to host the pic and enable you to get the url.
In fact once uploaded to photobucket, the pic will be labelled with all the IMG stuff which you can then simply cut paste into the reply without going to the picture icon.
Find the url of piccie
If it's on a webpage right click on it and go to 'properties' at bottom of list.
Where it says address (url) copy all of the adress from 'http' to '.jpg/gif' inclusive.
In the reply box you will see a picture of a mountain
Click on that and paste the copied url into the box that pops up.
Click OK and there you go, the pictures url will have [IMG] and [/IMG] either side of it.
The picture has to be uploaded somewhere, so you may need a hosting service like photobucket to host the pic and enable you to get the url.
In fact once uploaded to photobucket, the pic will be labelled with all the IMG stuff which you can then simply cut paste into the reply without going to the picture icon.
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'fraid not.
Free registration at http://photobucket.com/register.php?ref=headerregister
Once the account is open, browse for the pic you want then click 'upload'. Once uploaded, the pic will have a url that you use as described above.
Free registration at http://photobucket.com/register.php?ref=headerregister
Once the account is open, browse for the pic you want then click 'upload'. Once uploaded, the pic will have a url that you use as described above.
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Thank you
I know this thread has been around & every time Isee it I think , just read the instructions that have been posted a million times... but alas I contest in my defense that the instructions are not a sticky nor are readilly available when one does start a thread search !!
LOL
Thanks again SilsoSid
I know this thread has been around & every time Isee it I think , just read the instructions that have been posted a million times... but alas I contest in my defense that the instructions are not a sticky nor are readilly available when one does start a thread search !!
LOL
Thanks again SilsoSid