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Old 18th Mar 2007, 16:53
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Firemen and Bumbi Buckets

Found this brave men struggling with a bucket under a Super Puma.

http://www.johannes-leckebusch.de/Fo...164aus_tif.htm

http://www.johannes-leckebusch.de/Fo...W_0184_tif.htm

http://www.johannes-leckebusch.de/Fo...177aus_tif.htm

Impressive!
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Old 18th Mar 2007, 17:55
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I think its a SA330 Puma!

But never mind that, do you know if this was actual fire job or just training?
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Old 18th Mar 2007, 18:24
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Of course! It's a SA 330. In my mind it was clear a Super P. after i heard the germans sold all their 330 to HELOG. But may be older pics.

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Old 18th Mar 2007, 19:23
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Hi,
went through the pictures - seems there was a real fire somewhere in the mountains.
Just wondering about the procedure so.
I would taken a chainsaw and have cut some trees at the smal river, where the fireman got the water.
The helicoptercrews could have picked the water on their own - much faster and with less risk for all involved....

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Old 18th Mar 2007, 23:36
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Looks to me like they might have had a fire in the bucket
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Shoulda talked to the Czechs to see how its done!

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1157376/L/

Looks like the pilot in the Puma had a bit of trouble keeping the bucket up. A few of our crews trained like that with the local FD and said it was about 6 inches of vertical leeway, 2 feet of lateral leeway, or you were watering the grass.

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Old 19th Mar 2007, 22:54
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That looks like the Keystone Cops...

Good lord.

RH
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Old 20th Mar 2007, 04:44
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If the best one can do is to belly hook a bucket onto a Puma then maybe one should not be fighting fires.

I just goes to show, just because you fly a big machine it doesn't mean you are good at the job you have been tasked to do.

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Old 20th Mar 2007, 20:46
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+1 Choppergod
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Pedant mode on.

It's a Bambi bucket.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bambi_bucket

Pedant mode off.
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Old 21st Mar 2007, 05:35
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Now there's an opportunity to sell a porta tank (pumpkin') if I ever saw one.
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Old 21st Mar 2007, 08:59
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My Pedant mode on. Bumbi or Bambi? If AgustaWestland found Bumbi is correct, also Quichotte is on the right way.

See Fire Fighting
http://www.agustawestland.com/produc...?id_product=14


Here we can buy a "Bumbi"
http://www.alibaba.com/catalog/10920..._fighting.html
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Old 21st Mar 2007, 20:29
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Bambi Bucket

Here is an article about the person who says he invented the Bambi bucket. I think "bumbi" is an aberration of Turkish and Korean spelling errors.
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Old 21st Mar 2007, 21:37
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More like Bumble bucket.

Were those pictures taken at Trumpton, Germany?
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Old 9th Apr 2007, 21:31
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Just found this thread again. I confess, I only dipped out of a pumpkin for the first time last year and I found it to be a stressful exercise, especially when in a chain with Skycranes, S-58's, Vertols and a bunch of Hueys all waiting their turn. Tends to increase the concentration levels and thankfully I had done a bit of long-line before, I really felt sorry for the guys spending 2 minutes or longer trying to get the bucket into the pumpkin. It is not always easy work.
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Cool

JAB,

It gets better: wait 'til they task you to fill the buoywall
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Old 9th Apr 2007, 22:25
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Yes, it can get interesting on fires. Actually I find the support ops easier because you are on your own and can take your time, there is self-inflicted pressure in the daisy chain to get the bucket into the tank on the first try. I love the work, meet some great people and its always challenging, what more can you ask for? Would love to try it in Aus sometime.
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"Firemen"?
Stormtroopers!! looking at the shape of their helmets.....as the actress said to the bishop!
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Why on earth don't they use a longline?
Did some firefighting in Greece in '93 with a British International Super Puma using 100' longline and a bubble window on the left side.

It would get rid of their downwash problem.
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