New Employment and Training Contracts
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New Employment and Training Contracts
What is the consensus on training contracts as a prerequisite to employment? I have heard of some companies wanting you to sign up for 4 years. I understand that a company doesn't want to pay for somebodies training and then lose them to a competitor, but, 4 years is a little steep. This particular company operates Bell 430's and the training is done at FlightSafety. It seems that they have lost a lot of pilots to higher paying jobs. I feel that if they payed market value, then they would not lose these guys.
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Mr Selfish is right,
Training Contract equals Bad Management (chasing pilots away faster than they can train them).
Stay away, stay far away.
P.S. the norm for operators that want training contracts is two years. These guys must have a really bad management problem.
Training Contract equals Bad Management (chasing pilots away faster than they can train them).
Stay away, stay far away.
P.S. the norm for operators that want training contracts is two years. These guys must have a really bad management problem.
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If I remember correctly, a well known North Sea operator who used to have a training school in southern UK but now uses one in the States has always required new trainees to agree to at least 4 year with the company after training with them to CPL(H) standards.
Subsequent conversion training and IR training etc generally only required comittment for a further year or so until you had served more than 6 years with the company, after which training was part of the parcel.
While 4 years (plus or minus) for ab initio training is not unreasonable, 4 years for a straight conversion sounds a little steep. I assume that Badmonkey_1 already has suitable multi-engine time and isn't converting a basic CPL from R22s to the Bell 430. I might be able to understand the time "penalty" more if this is the case........
Subsequent conversion training and IR training etc generally only required comittment for a further year or so until you had served more than 6 years with the company, after which training was part of the parcel.
While 4 years (plus or minus) for ab initio training is not unreasonable, 4 years for a straight conversion sounds a little steep. I assume that Badmonkey_1 already has suitable multi-engine time and isn't converting a basic CPL from R22s to the Bell 430. I might be able to understand the time "penalty" more if this is the case........
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Folks,
If you ever go to fly in the N. Sea and you join any of the companies without a 332l/l2/225/S61 rating or without an IR you should will have to sign a bond for either 3 or 5 years.
I can't say if they all have 'bad management' or if all three companies are 'companies with problems'...
Lunar
If you ever go to fly in the N. Sea and you join any of the companies without a 332l/l2/225/S61 rating or without an IR you should will have to sign a bond for either 3 or 5 years.
I can't say if they all have 'bad management' or if all three companies are 'companies with problems'...
Lunar
Different here in Australia.
I've recently picked up a Super Puma endorsement, instrument rating and NVFR, all at no cost and no bond.
Why?
Because the company knows that I'll want to stay.
I've recently picked up a Super Puma endorsement, instrument rating and NVFR, all at no cost and no bond.
Why?
Because the company knows that I'll want to stay.
In the UK, these 'aviation' bonds are not legally enforceable...did you all know that?
The only legally binding bonding is when company security/secrecy is involved. Also government sensitive issues attached to senior management levels.
The rest is all smoke and mirrors to baffle and frighten off the minions.
The only legally binding bonding is when company security/secrecy is involved. Also government sensitive issues attached to senior management levels.
The rest is all smoke and mirrors to baffle and frighten off the minions.
Tightgit
In the UK, these 'aviation' bonds are not legally enforceable...did you all know that?
I do not believe you are correct. Join BALPA and you can find out why
