French Cougar Crash VIDEO !
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Finally got that video to play. I have a copy of it and can email to those who wish, if you PM me. It is 1 meg. Three real boners shown, all crew related:
1)The helo struck the ground with its tail rotor – pilot error – he flared too much, too low. CP error, he didn't asvise, warn or prevent the impact. Yes prevent - he should have pushed the cyclic forward or taken the controls, if he had the training or the nerve. He had neither.
2)The CP was useless, note his arm hanging out the window. He never cut the engines to help the situation, again failure of training and possibly nerve.
3)One pax was not belted in, he fell out and was run over by his own machine.
Leave it to ppruners to blame the aircraft, and demand overhead engine levers so when they bash their machine against the ground and ruin it, they can follow a procedure written in a helicopter guide. Keeps them busy, so they don't have to think of how to PREVENT the accident. Perhaps this helo should have had full CAT A capability, too, to make it safer.
1)The helo struck the ground with its tail rotor – pilot error – he flared too much, too low. CP error, he didn't asvise, warn or prevent the impact. Yes prevent - he should have pushed the cyclic forward or taken the controls, if he had the training or the nerve. He had neither.
2)The CP was useless, note his arm hanging out the window. He never cut the engines to help the situation, again failure of training and possibly nerve.
3)One pax was not belted in, he fell out and was run over by his own machine.
Leave it to ppruners to blame the aircraft, and demand overhead engine levers so when they bash their machine against the ground and ruin it, they can follow a procedure written in a helicopter guide. Keeps them busy, so they don't have to think of how to PREVENT the accident. Perhaps this helo should have had full CAT A capability, too, to make it safer.
Last edited by NickLappos; 8th Dec 2005 at 12:14.
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Loads of links to the vid http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...hreadid=200265
"If the aircraft is spinning so badly that one cannot reach the overhead engine levers (they are NOT throttles, guys) then one cannot control the helo, so all bets are off."
Have they had a rethink since you left Sikorsky? My shiny new S-92 RFM calls them nothing but THROTTLES!
(Having said that, I know where you are coming from; they are not throttles in the conventional sense)
Have they had a rethink since you left Sikorsky? My shiny new S-92 RFM calls them nothing but THROTTLES!
(Having said that, I know where you are coming from; they are not throttles in the conventional sense)
Throttles, Power Levers, Speed Selects, Engine Levers, Condition Levers.......errrr...splitting hairs are we not? If you "yank" one of them back....things get quieter and things move slower, it would seem.
A light hearted diversion I would say. It wasn't me that said they were not called throttles.........
Crikey...."Throttles" on a 92? What happened to push buttons....lift and turn switches....push the tit (on the panel...not the other seat) and listen to computers do their thing....better living through technology way of living. Maybe that 92 is not as high tech as we have been led to believe.
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SASless is right, those "levers" on the S-92 are really fancy joysticks to control the FADECs
THROTTLES! I will have to bug the pilots on that one, 212man! Nice gotcha, BTW.
THROTTLES! I will have to bug the pilots on that one, 212man! Nice gotcha, BTW.
I just assumed they were there for ex S-61 co-pilots, to give them somewhere to put their hands during take off and landing (as they'll have nothing esle to do)!
