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DanCopter receives its fourth Eurocopter EC225
Eurocopter has delivered a fourth EC225 helicopter to Denmark’s DanCopter A/S – which operates the rotorcraft for crew change missions to offshore oil and gas platforms in the North Sea.
DanCopter receives its fourth Eurocopter EC225 | Helihub - the Helicopter Industry Data Source
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DanCopter receives its fourth Eurocopter EC225
Eurocopter has delivered a fourth EC225 helicopter to Denmark’s DanCopter A/S – which operates the rotorcraft for crew change missions to offshore oil and gas platforms in the North Sea.
DanCopter receives its fourth Eurocopter EC225 | Helihub - the Helicopter Industry Data Source
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HSSG - Townhall Meeting - Morning Session
Wed 31st July
Time
9.30 AM until 12.00 PM
Venue
Aberdeen Exhibition and Conference Centre, Bridge of Don, Aberdeen, AB23 8BL
Details
In response to the announcement that the Helicopter Safety Steering Group (HSSG) are supporting the safety of the return to flight of the EC 225 aircraft, the immediate priority for the HSSG is workforce engagement to ensure understanding of the investigation and safety measures and restore confidence in the EC225.
Step Change in Safety are running a series of Town Hall Sessions on Wednesday 31 July 2013, to offer an opportunity for offshore workers, their families and interested members of the public to listen to presentations and speak with members of the HSSG about the return to service of the EC225 aircraft
Wed 31st July
Time
9.30 AM until 12.00 PM
Venue
Aberdeen Exhibition and Conference Centre, Bridge of Don, Aberdeen, AB23 8BL
Details
In response to the announcement that the Helicopter Safety Steering Group (HSSG) are supporting the safety of the return to flight of the EC 225 aircraft, the immediate priority for the HSSG is workforce engagement to ensure understanding of the investigation and safety measures and restore confidence in the EC225.
Step Change in Safety are running a series of Town Hall Sessions on Wednesday 31 July 2013, to offer an opportunity for offshore workers, their families and interested members of the public to listen to presentations and speak with members of the HSSG about the return to service of the EC225 aircraft
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interested members of the public to listen to presentations and speak with members of the HSSG about the return to service of the EC225 aircraft
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SonAir resumes commercial service with Eurocopter EC225 helicopters
SonAir resumes commercial service with Eurocopter EC225 helicopters | Vertical Magazine - The Pulse of the Helicopter Industry
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SonAir resumes commercial service with Eurocopter EC225 helicopters
SonAir resumes commercial service with Eurocopter EC225 helicopters | Vertical Magazine - The Pulse of the Helicopter Industry
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The full HSSG.
You may be aware from recent articles in the press that the Helicopter Safety Steering Group (HSSG) has announced that it accepts the root causes and safety barriers identified by Eurocopter and verified by independent experts and now fully supports the return of EC225 to service
This is on the basis that multiple safety barriers will be put in place prior to any aircraft returning to service (please see the attached fact sheet).
HSSG is tasked with supporting safe helicopter operations to and from our offshore installations and has led the industry response to the two EC225 ditchings in 2012. Its membership includes Duty Holder and major contractors, Helicopter Operators, Health and Safety Executive (HSE), Civil Aviation Authority (CAA), Trade Unions – Unite, RMT and BALPA and members of the offshore workforce.
There will be a series of ‘town hall’ sessions held for offshore workers, their families and members of the public with an interest in the return to service and are free to attend (bookable via wwwstepchangeinsafety.net). The sessions will be held on 31 July at the AECC: 10am-noon, 2-4pm and 6-8pm. These meetings offer an opportunity to listen to presentations and speak with members of the HSSG.
If you cannot attend, HSSG will also make available standard presentations, fact sheets and other materials via both the Step Change in Safety website and the EC225 Knowledge Centre (EC225 Knowledge Centre) site and will encourage wide communication to the offshore workforce.
You may be aware from recent articles in the press that the Helicopter Safety Steering Group (HSSG) has announced that it accepts the root causes and safety barriers identified by Eurocopter and verified by independent experts and now fully supports the return of EC225 to service
This is on the basis that multiple safety barriers will be put in place prior to any aircraft returning to service (please see the attached fact sheet).
HSSG is tasked with supporting safe helicopter operations to and from our offshore installations and has led the industry response to the two EC225 ditchings in 2012. Its membership includes Duty Holder and major contractors, Helicopter Operators, Health and Safety Executive (HSE), Civil Aviation Authority (CAA), Trade Unions – Unite, RMT and BALPA and members of the offshore workforce.
There will be a series of ‘town hall’ sessions held for offshore workers, their families and members of the public with an interest in the return to service and are free to attend (bookable via wwwstepchangeinsafety.net). The sessions will be held on 31 July at the AECC: 10am-noon, 2-4pm and 6-8pm. These meetings offer an opportunity to listen to presentations and speak with members of the HSSG.
If you cannot attend, HSSG will also make available standard presentations, fact sheets and other materials via both the Step Change in Safety website and the EC225 Knowledge Centre (EC225 Knowledge Centre) site and will encourage wide communication to the offshore workforce.
Anybody else besides Sonair carrying passengers, or are all the OEM fixes, like the MOD45 or HUMS as reliable as the fire warning system on an S92, and dampening passenger enthusiasm?
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14 spurious warnings so far I hear. Not a good start but to be expected when the return to service is being rushed and dictated by commercial pressure. Shame on the regulators for lifting restrictions before proper testing (like in the actual aircraft would be a good idea) has been properly completed.
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14 spurious warnings so far I hear. Not a good start but to be expected when the return to service is being rushed and dictated by commercial pressure. Shame on the regulators for lifting restrictions before proper testing (like in the actual aircraft would be a good idea) has been properly completed.
If you had attended the recent presentations by Eurocopter, based on the independent opinions of a slew of world-leading experts, you might not be so hasty in your conclusions and personalised criticisms.
They have got the whole matter sorted out, down to a "T"
They have got the whole matter sorted out, down to a "T"
Spurious warnings were anticipated.
Now what is the fix that will reduce the number of Spurious Warnings?
If we continue to see a very high rate of Spurious Warnings....when does a Crew ignore one.....to discover it is the real thing?
Now what is the fix that will reduce the number of Spurious Warnings?
If we continue to see a very high rate of Spurious Warnings....when does a Crew ignore one.....to discover it is the real thing?
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Spurious warnings. The little boy who cried wolf has moved from the domain of the engineers to the flight deck.
For years M’ARMS has been frustrating engineers by calling up engineering interventions when there was no fault. So what’s the problem? Time spent servicing a system that should be one of the greatest advancement in flight safety is distracting man hours away from the basic need to maintain aircraft due to the fact the monitoring system is less mature and reliable than the systems it is intended to monitor. This is unlikely to result in a major problem with engineering as everything happens in relatively slow time with regards to imminent danger.
However the flight deck is a real time safety issue. Time spent checking why the light is on this time is an unnecessary distraction from the primary task of the safe operation of the aircraft.
Would I be right in saying that even after practically every part of the EM Lube system has been replaced and tested ad nauseaum to restore the 30 min rating, in the highly unlikely event of a shaft failure you have to land immediately. EC previously assured us that MGB integrity was maintained by the remaining 2 bearings.
For years M’ARMS has been frustrating engineers by calling up engineering interventions when there was no fault. So what’s the problem? Time spent servicing a system that should be one of the greatest advancement in flight safety is distracting man hours away from the basic need to maintain aircraft due to the fact the monitoring system is less mature and reliable than the systems it is intended to monitor. This is unlikely to result in a major problem with engineering as everything happens in relatively slow time with regards to imminent danger.
However the flight deck is a real time safety issue. Time spent checking why the light is on this time is an unnecessary distraction from the primary task of the safe operation of the aircraft.
Would I be right in saying that even after practically every part of the EM Lube system has been replaced and tested ad nauseaum to restore the 30 min rating, in the highly unlikely event of a shaft failure you have to land immediately. EC previously assured us that MGB integrity was maintained by the remaining 2 bearings.
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From EC Information Notice 2611 - I - 63
I am surprised that Eurocopter testing performed in the aircraft did not find this earlier, or, was not much done?
- "MOD45 FAIL": This message appears in-flight when two consecutive MOD45 acquisitions (i.e.: a 5 minute period) are invalid or not performed. Because MOD45 monitoring is not ensured, the “HUMS” caution alarm on the instrument panel is activated. The MOD45 data may not be recorded if other HUMS acquisitions are already in progress when the MOD45 data is interrogated, e.g.: the main rotor or the tail rotor balance acquisitions, which can be carried out automatically or upon a request from the pilot. The descent procedure performed at IAS above 125kts is one of the conditions for initiating the automatic rotor balance acquisition and, therefore, performing a descent with IAS lower than 125kts will prevent this “MOD45 FAIL” message. Studies are being carried out to improve this behavior.
I am surprised that Eurocopter testing performed in the aircraft did not find this earlier, or, was not much done?
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Pilots raise concerns after helicopter gearbox warning
Alarm came on during Super Puma testing
Published: 03/08/2013
FEARS were raised by pilots testing grounded Super Puma helicopters ahead of their return to operations after a warning message told them the gearbox shaft had failed.
Alarm came on during Super Puma testing
Published: 03/08/2013
FEARS were raised by pilots testing grounded Super Puma helicopters ahead of their return to operations after a warning message told them the gearbox shaft had failed.
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What can you say?
It’s unfortunate that the general public, passengers included, perceptions of the EC225 will be influenced by this utterly ill-informed drivel. I hope EC will take Mr Anthony Joseph and the EE to court and rip them a new one.
It’s unfortunate that the general public, passengers included, perceptions of the EC225 will be influenced by this utterly ill-informed drivel. I hope EC will take Mr Anthony Joseph and the EE to court and rip them a new one.
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Mr Joseph is not telling a lie. There have been numerous spurious warnings, 14 or15 in he first week or two. It looks like EC know what causes it now, climb and descent at >125 knots. But EC should have ironed this out before telling everyone that all was fixed.
It is EC and the rush to return the 225 to service which, if EC gets it wrong, will destroy passenger confidence forever, not an article by a journo.
Mr Joseph is not telling a lie. There have been numerous spurious warnings, 14 or15 in he first week or two. It looks like EC know what causes it now, climb and descent at >125 knots. But EC should have ironed this out before telling everyone that all was fixed.
It is EC and the rush to return the 225 to service which, if EC gets it wrong, will destroy passenger confidence forever, not an article by a journo.
Sometimes one just has to laugh!
On the one hand.....we are told the "Fix" is all in hand.
Then....we are told the "Testing" is all done.
Then....OOOPS! We did miss one wee small glitch.
Being the eternal pessimist (too many years flying helicopters I guess)...One cannot help but think.....what other/how many other, wee small tiny glitches snuck through!
On the one hand.....we are told the "Fix" is all in hand.
Then....we are told the "Testing" is all done.
Then....OOOPS! We did miss one wee small glitch.
Being the eternal pessimist (too many years flying helicopters I guess)...One cannot help but think.....what other/how many other, wee small tiny glitches snuck through!