Tail Rotor / Fenestrom or NOTAR

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28th Feb 2001, 22:44

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Pac Rotors

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Tail Rotor / Fenestrom or NOTAR

So which rear end propulsion version do you prefer out of the above. Comments would be appreciated.

1st Mar 2001, 00:40

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RW-1

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You forgot None, if flying counterrotating hehe (Kaman)

For me, I'll take any of 'em, as long as I'm flying!

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1st Mar 2001, 02:34

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Fair Comment, also forgot the ones like the Chinook, B-234 and 107. Wonder if there are any KMAX pilots here.

PR

1st Mar 2001, 05:24

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cheeta

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Does Huskie pilot count? I have a few hours in the Kaman H-43 in a logging operation. Great machine hope to be able to start flying it full time this summer

1st Mar 2001, 05:56

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widgeon

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How bout Kamov drivers , are the ones in BC only flown by Russian pilots ?.

1st Mar 2001, 06:07

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Larry

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Those Kamov KA-32s are very interesting machines. Id love to see one fly.

I heard they can lift 13,000lb if allowed.

1st Mar 2001, 13:22

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Randy_g

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Well they will certainly be rush'n up and down the hill.

Okay sorry about that one, but I just couldn't resist.

When I was in Sydney a year ago, I talked with a guy from Hevi-lift who flew the 32, and he loved it. He said it was a great long-lining platform. I'd love to fly one on fires.

cheers

Randy_G

pass me another cold stubby, and lather me up with sunscreen love !!

1st Mar 2001, 21:26

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MIKIM

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KMAX PILOT HERE.. NO TAIL ROTOR IS A GREAT WAY TO FLY

2nd Mar 2001, 00:36

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Dave Jackson

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I believe that the two Kamovs used in BC for logging are flown by Canadians but are serviced by Russians, that come out to BC on a two year stint.

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2nd Mar 2001, 01:52

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Pac Rotors

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MIKIM

Tried to send you an email but it got bounced back as unknown address.

PR

3rd Mar 2001, 22:59

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MIKIM

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PAC..HAVE HAD 2 EMAILS FROM N.Z IN 2 DAYS SO ADDRESS SHOULD WORK.. REGARDS MIKIM..

3rd Mar 2001, 23:19

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Pac Rotors

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Tried yet again but it got bounced back again.

PR

3rd Mar 2001, 23:25

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Thomas coupling

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interesting? No-one has answered the question, yet...not even the instigator!!

Just before you ask! There can be nothing between them no matter which way you come at the subject. Performance / protection / failure....or is there?

Question answered, now can we get back to wandering off the subject...please..

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5th Mar 2001, 02:31

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I have found that the Fenestron ( both pre-mod Gazelle and post mod ) very satisfying to fly, both in response and accuracy to input.
The Naked tail rotor of the Lynx performed well ( sometimes missing a few inches) but the BO 105 with it's asymmetric tail rotor blades was a star with it's quick response and control feel. The NOTAR is a different beast altogether, it works in a different way and is not so precise due to airflow and it's compressibility physics.
The COANDA effect works very well, and is a very clever way of off loading the main rotor torque effect no matter what the power setting.