Getting your 'Wings' 2005 style? (Recruiting homosexuals to the military)
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I dont know whats wrong with gay folks. Most of the people hate them because of their direction but they are obviously good enough to get drafted to partake in the field of battle and serve as cannon fodder or elsewhere to put their lives on the line. But Hell they are a threat to society... All I am saying is screw you all. Cause I dont give a rats something as long as their lifestyle does not interfere with mine. Whats wrong of being different? This endless debate of poofty flightcrews, and blah, blah, Get real you plonkers and concentrate on the real issues
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Flying Lawyer was quite right, and he makes a valid point about my use of the word bigot. I apologise.
However, I would like to say that context is everything in this issue, and the standard response of 'the majority' in calling 'a minority' bigoted (am not - are too) sidesteps the issue of discrimination entirely. For a start, minorities have no choice about tolerance...tolerate racism, or get lynched... tolerate sexual discrimination or lose your job...
I just want to repeat that it is amazing how much emotional energy is expended worrying about other people's sexuality when it is completely irrelevant 95% of the time.
The protections of freedom of speech and equity legislation do not extend to protect those who would use these rights to actively discriminate or promote hate. Tolerance is the issue, acceptance is a matter for people to discuss in their own homes.
However, I would like to say that context is everything in this issue, and the standard response of 'the majority' in calling 'a minority' bigoted (am not - are too) sidesteps the issue of discrimination entirely. For a start, minorities have no choice about tolerance...tolerate racism, or get lynched... tolerate sexual discrimination or lose your job...
I just want to repeat that it is amazing how much emotional energy is expended worrying about other people's sexuality when it is completely irrelevant 95% of the time.
The protections of freedom of speech and equity legislation do not extend to protect those who would use these rights to actively discriminate or promote hate. Tolerance is the issue, acceptance is a matter for people to discuss in their own homes.
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Funny how the politics of Rotorheads is hanging on to this thread. Seems to be beating a dead horse. I notice the thread regarding the shooting at Helicopters in New Orleans has hit the Bin..
Must be or have something to do with the reality of who is doing the crime........... Since all of the culprits I have seen on the news are from one ethnic group it must be considered racism..
What do you think heliport.........
Bin.. Must be or have something to do with the reality of who is doing the crime........... Since all of the culprits I have seen on the news are from one ethnic group it must be considered racism..
What do you think heliport.........
Righton Bert and TC, I have already sent a letter of complaint about this. Considering the amount of half sensible and focused posts that get erased on this forum, it is nothing but a miracle this has persisted.
Complete BS.
"Considering the amount of half sensible and focused posts that get erased on this forum"
Complete nonsense.
We very rarely even edit posts in this forum, and almost never erase them.
Heliport
Complete BS.
"Considering the amount of half sensible and focused posts that get erased on this forum"
Complete nonsense.
We very rarely even edit posts in this forum, and almost never erase them.
Heliport
Bert Buddy....
At your advanced age..."beating a dead horse"...is that a Freudian slip per chance?
At your advanced age..."beating a dead horse"...is that a Freudian slip per chance?
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ORWAC 70-28. You were before me............Lets not get into advanced age.
Great party tonight in Africa tomorrow Paris, Manchester and Newark........ then on to Vegas.
Looks like work in the gulf for a while as there appears to be some storm damage...
What was this thread about anyway..........
ORWAC 70-28. You were before me............Lets not get into advanced age.
Great party tonight in Africa tomorrow Paris, Manchester and Newark........ then on to Vegas.
Looks like work in the gulf for a while as there appears to be some storm damage...
What was this thread about anyway..........
ORWAC....ORWAC!
That explains it....and confirms it simultaneously!
We of the WORWAC School always knew you ORWAC guys wuz Wayne Kerrs in uniform.
That explains it....and confirms it simultaneously!
We of the WORWAC School always knew you ORWAC guys wuz Wayne Kerrs in uniform.
EMS....me and ol' Bert was off thread in that exchange....it had nothing to do with the topic of discussion thus nothing should be made of that exchange.
An explanation is probably in order....ORWAC....generally translates to Officer Rotary Wing Aviator Course (Commissioned Officers only.....), WORWAC translates to Warrant Officer Rotary Wing Aviator Course (Enlisted guys training to be Warrant Officer Helicopter Pilots- no officers).
The rub was complex....we mere WOC's got a temporary pay grade of E-5, lowest rank of SGT....per diem at an outrageous rate of about One US Dollar per day, lived in barracks, suffered under the old style Prussian training routine....ran everywhere we went....saluted everything that moved...painted everything that didn't....and after almost a year of training...became Warrant Officers One....the lowest rank of officers. The senior Warrant Officer...CW4 in those days still ranked lower than the newest 2nd Lieutenant. (Rank mind you...not prestige or horsepower).
The officer class on the other hand, had every night off, every weekend off, drove fancy sports cars paid for by their Twenty One dollar a day Per Diem, Flight pay commensurate to rank, sepearate quarters, rations, and other special pay.
The US Army in their infinite wisdom....required Warrant Officer Candidates to score higher on the Standard Army Qualification Test than they did commissioned officers thus one had to actually be smarter to be a Warrant Officer than a Commissoned Officer which immediately set up a disaster of the subordinates being commanded by the dimmer witted of the service.
Right Bert?
An explanation is probably in order....ORWAC....generally translates to Officer Rotary Wing Aviator Course (Commissioned Officers only.....), WORWAC translates to Warrant Officer Rotary Wing Aviator Course (Enlisted guys training to be Warrant Officer Helicopter Pilots- no officers).
The rub was complex....we mere WOC's got a temporary pay grade of E-5, lowest rank of SGT....per diem at an outrageous rate of about One US Dollar per day, lived in barracks, suffered under the old style Prussian training routine....ran everywhere we went....saluted everything that moved...painted everything that didn't....and after almost a year of training...became Warrant Officers One....the lowest rank of officers. The senior Warrant Officer...CW4 in those days still ranked lower than the newest 2nd Lieutenant. (Rank mind you...not prestige or horsepower).
The officer class on the other hand, had every night off, every weekend off, drove fancy sports cars paid for by their Twenty One dollar a day Per Diem, Flight pay commensurate to rank, sepearate quarters, rations, and other special pay.
The US Army in their infinite wisdom....required Warrant Officer Candidates to score higher on the Standard Army Qualification Test than they did commissioned officers thus one had to actually be smarter to be a Warrant Officer than a Commissoned Officer which immediately set up a disaster of the subordinates being commanded by the dimmer witted of the service.
Right Bert?
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Solution! Solution!
I've got a couple of Latina friends who could make any gay reconsider his sexual inclination after a few sessions !
Send the gay pilots over here for a week and then we'll all be on the same side!
(now seriously, I don't mean any disrespect for gay's, I all said is being gay is not normal, (nature wise) I really don't understand why they show it off?)
Send the gay pilots over here for a week and then we'll all be on the same side!
(now seriously, I don't mean any disrespect for gay's, I all said is being gay is not normal, (nature wise) I really don't understand why they show it off?)
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Only those who choose to show it off, show it off. This I would reckon is a minority of our 'minority'. 'Normal' people I know and have met to date don't have a problem with it. Narrow-minded 'normal' people like you are the ones who have a problem, and these days YOU'RE a minority thank god. I'll bet there are classes YOU can attend to help you fit better into modern society.
Only those who choose to show it off, show it off. This I would reckon is a minority of our 'minority'. 'Normal' people I know and have met to date don't have a problem with it. Narrow-minded 'normal' people like you are the ones who have a problem, and these days YOU'RE a minority thank god. I'll bet there are classes YOU can attend to help you fit better into modern society.
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Trislander - Get off your high horse, or high whore, whichever fits. Blender made a tounge in cheek comment, something you should be used to.
Before you start slagging off Blender find out a bit more about the person. He is one of the better indivudals here and well respected.
No matter how you look at it, homos, faggots, poofs, whatever you want to call yourselves, have only become the "in" thing with the new liberalised do gooder groups that have sprung up. Me, I cant stand your type, and I have absolutely no problem saying it. Am I narrow minded, not at all. Do I think rump riding is normal, hell no, and never will. I think you will find that the majority of people worldwide have this same "narrow minded" attitude.
Have a great day.
Blender - Dont waste your time with Turd Burglars. Come and chat with us "narrow minded" folk
Before you start slagging off Blender find out a bit more about the person. He is one of the better indivudals here and well respected.
No matter how you look at it, homos, faggots, poofs, whatever you want to call yourselves, have only become the "in" thing with the new liberalised do gooder groups that have sprung up. Me, I cant stand your type, and I have absolutely no problem saying it. Am I narrow minded, not at all. Do I think rump riding is normal, hell no, and never will. I think you will find that the majority of people worldwide have this same "narrow minded" attitude.
Have a great day.
Blender - Dont waste your time with Turd Burglars. Come and chat with us "narrow minded" folk
Blender,
I beg to differ with our good friend and colleague....you are not the one with a problem.
The one who shows intolerance is the one with a problem. If you don't like the reaction you get when you expose yourself....don't expose yourself....just go about your life without drawing attention to yourself and avoid the perceived insult.
Seems a popensity for some who walk on the other side of the street to engage in name calling and insults when someone suggests they prefer the fairer of the species vice their own kind. All the while suggesting Pride in their choice of lifestyles and the promoting of that lifestyle should be above criticism. Seems a contradiction to me.
To each their own.....and Blender...old buddy and friend...I do accept referrals...errrr...introductions.
I beg to differ with our good friend and colleague....you are not the one with a problem.
The one who shows intolerance is the one with a problem. If you don't like the reaction you get when you expose yourself....don't expose yourself....just go about your life without drawing attention to yourself and avoid the perceived insult.
Seems a popensity for some who walk on the other side of the street to engage in name calling and insults when someone suggests they prefer the fairer of the species vice their own kind. All the while suggesting Pride in their choice of lifestyles and the promoting of that lifestyle should be above criticism. Seems a contradiction to me.
To each their own.....and Blender...old buddy and friend...I do accept referrals...errrr...introductions.
