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Old 25th Mar 2011, 14:20
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Just seen this on the wire.

PLAQUEMINES PARISH, LA (WAFB) - A helicopter leaving a rig in the Gulf of Mexico flipped into the water when an engine went out Thursday afternoon.

According to a witness, a "chopper in the water" alert went out over a loud speaker on the oil platform just before 5 p.m. He said it was so random everyone was on edge.

The Petroleum Helicopters Inc. (PHI) chopper went into the water in an area known as Main Pass, which is just off the coast of Boothville.

A PHI worker who was on the oil platform pulled out his cell phone and recorded the aftermath. Petty Officer First Class Kelsey Thomason with the U.S. Coast Guard reported three men were on board.

"They were getting ready to take off and there was some kind of malfunction and it flipped over on its side," Thomason said.

According to Thomason, the chopper was floating on the water on a pontoon, but the guys could have been seriously hurt.

"It is dangerous. We did have a helicopter up doing a pollution flight, so we quickly diverted it to the rig and quickly recovered it," he explained.

A PHI worker said within 10 minutes a vessel pulled alongside the helicopter to rescue the three men. Thomason added they were taken back to the platform and treated by PHI medics.

The helicopter was tied to the platform to keep it from floating away.

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Old 25th Mar 2011, 14:33
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Aircraft in question being a LongRanger.



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Old 9th Apr 2011, 14:37
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Last year was the first year since 1984 (records were not kept before then!) when there were no accidents in the GOM.

That is no doubt due to the IHST's promotion of SMS.

However the dirty little secret remains, namely there were 3 ditchings, one due to a tail rotor failure and two due to engine failures.

The NTSB, who seem busy scrambling go teams for every TCAS RA thesedays, don't treat those as accidents and ignore them.
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Old 9th Apr 2011, 19:44
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The definition of an accident is well established on this side of the pond. The NTSB cannot call it an accident if it doesn't meet the definition.
Accident
As defined by the NTSB, this is an occurrence associated with the operation of an aircraft where as a result of the operation of an aircraft, any person (either inside or outside the aircraft) receives fatal or serious injury or any aircraft receives substantial damage. The occurrence is also not caused by the deliberate action of one or more persons and that leads to damage or injury. The NTSB definition, which is also used by the FAA, divides accidents into four categories:

Major - an accident in which a 14 CFR 121 aircraft was destroyed, there were multiple fatalities, or there was one fatality and a 14 CFR 121 aircraft was substantially damaged.
Serious - an accident in which there was either one fatality without substantial damage to a 14 CFR 121 aircraft, or there was at least one serious injury and a 14 CFR121 aircraft was substantially damaged.
Injury - a nonfatal accident with at least one serious injury and without substantial damage to a 14 CFR 121 aircraft.
Damage - an accident in which no person was killed or seriously injured, but in which any aircraft was substantially damaged.


Serious Injury
Injuries that result in one or more of the following conditions:

Requires hospitalization for more than 48 hours, commencing within seven days from the date the injury was received,
Results in a fracture of any bone (except simple fractures of fingers, toes, or nose),
Involves lacerations that cause severe hemorrhages, nerve, muscle, or tendon damage.
Involves injury to any internal organ, or
Involves second or third degree burns, or any burns affecting more than five percent of the body surface.


Substantial Damage
Damage or structural failure that negatively affects an aircraft's structural strength, performance, or flying characteristics, and which would require significant repair or replacement of the affected component or system. Substantial damage excludes damage to landing gear, wheels, tires, and flaps. It also excludes bent aerodynamic fairings, dents in the aircraft skin, small punctures in the aircraft skin, ground damage to propeller blades, or damage to only a single engine.
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Old 10th Apr 2011, 21:15
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That was just a quote, and the same applies to Part 135. There has to be a serious injury or substantial damage to the aircraft before it can be called an accident, no matter what FAR covers the operation. No serious injury, no substantial damage, no accident. There is no wiggle room on that.
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Old 10th Apr 2011, 21:45
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Would have thought a dip in the Gulf was substantial damage, going to be big bill if not total loss.
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Old 10th Apr 2011, 21:59
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Actually the definition is HERE

Here are some relevant excerpts...emphasis added by me:

Aircraft accident means an occurrence associated with the operation
of an aircraft which takes place between the time any person boards the
aircraft with the intention of flight and all such persons have
disembarked, and in which any person suffers death or serious injury, or
in which the aircraft receives substantial damage.
Substantial damage means damage or failure which adversely affects the structural strength, performance, or flight characteristics of the aircraft, and which would normally require major repair or replacement of the affected component.
One would think the "flight characteristics" of the aircraft in the picture were "adversely affected".

Just for clarification however:

Engine failure..................not considered substantial damage'' for the purpose of this part.
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Old 10th Apr 2011, 23:18
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Boys...if the helicopter landed successfully on the water and then rolled over after everyone got out, then voila!...not an accident. That would be my story and I'd stick to it.
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Old 11th Apr 2011, 01:03
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FH1100, I have a LongRanger I'd like to sell you. Just had a compressor wash, detail and has 2000 accident free hours
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Old 11th Apr 2011, 02:21
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There have been lots of those flying around the GOM for decades. Some fare better than others. I remember one 206 which had a decel on takeoff, the pilot put it in the water on the floats and everyone got out and onto a boat, and then the boat tried to tow it back to the platform. By the time it was attached to the crane for lifting up, both rotor blades were broken off, the tailboom was broken off, the skids were pulled off, and the windows were broken out, among other things. There was certainly substantial damage, but I still wouldn't call it an accident, because the damage was all caused after the aircraft was landed and the engine was shut down, and there was no further intent to fly. It's not an accident if a tornado destroys an aircraft in a hangar, is it?

Corrosion-X is an excellent product, and has helped lots of helicopters continue flying after immersion in salt water.
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Any further information on this?

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************************************************************ ********************
** Report created 5/17/2011 Record 1 **
************************************************************ ********************

IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 266P Make/Model: B206 Description: BELL 206B HELICOPTER
Date: 05/13/2011 Time: 1600

Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Substantial

LOCATION
City: MOBILE State: AL Country: US

DESCRIPTION
N266P BELL 206-L4 ROTORCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES OFF SHORE
NEAR MOBILE, AL

INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Pass: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

WEATHER: 1553Z 17010KT 10SM SCT024 28/22 A2990

OTHER DATA
Activity: Unknown Phase: Unknown Operation: OTHER


FAA FSDO: BIRMINGHAM, AL (SO09) Entry date: 05/17/2011
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Old 26th May 2011, 06:52
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NTSB Identification: ERA11LA297
Nonscheduled 14 CFR Part 135: Air Taxi & Commuter
Accident occurred Friday, May 13, 2011 in Mobile Block 114CC, GM
Aircraft: BELL 206-L4, registration: N266P
Injuries: 2 Serious,1 Uninjured.

This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain errors. Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final report has been completed.

On May 13, 2011, about 1120 central daylight time, a Bell 206L-4, N229P, landed hard in the Gulf of Mexico near the Mobile Block 114CC helideck following an in-flight loss of directional control. The helicopter was substantially damaged. The helicopter was registered to and operated by PHI, Inc. under the provisions of 14 Code of Federal Regulations Part 135 as a passenger flight. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed and a company visual flight rules flight plan was filed. The two pilots sustained serious injuries and the passenger was not injured. The flight was originating at the time of the accident.

According to the operator, the pilot positioned the helicopter for a west-southwest departure due to prevailing wind conditions. After clearing the edge of the production platform helideck, the helicopter started a slow yaw to the right. The pilot added full left pedal; however, this did not stop the rotation. After 360 degrees of rotation, the rotation quickened, the pilot stated that he "didn't have a tail rotor," and lowered the collective and rolled the throttle to idle. The pilot deployed the emergency floats, and the helicopter impacted the water slightly nose low and in a right drift. The helicopter rolled over immediately to the right and stayed afloat. The pilot egressed the helicopter through the broken windscreen area, the left seat pilot egressed through the pilot's open door, and the passenger egressed through the left passenger door.

The wreckage was recovered to the operator's facilities in Lafayette, Louisiana where an examination of the wreckage was performed on May 18, 2011. An inspector with the Federal Aviation Administration provided oversight for the examination, assisted by the operator and an investigator from Bell Textron. The examination of the engine, tail rotor gearbox, tail rotor drive shaft, main gear box, and main rotor system did not reveal evidence of a pre-existing mechanical malfunction or anomaly.
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Lazurus Twins?
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But... But... But... That costs more money! The poor oil companies are almost bankrupt, aren't they?
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Old 25th Nov 2011, 07:04
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Here is the summary of an interesting paper produced by 'Hopkins Center':

A new study by researchers at the Johns Hopkins Center for Injury Research and Policy finds that helicopters that service the drilling platforms and vessels in the Gulf of Mexico crash on average more than six times per year resulting in an average of 5 deaths per year. From 1983 to 2009, 178 crashes resulted in 139 deaths, including 41 pilots and 3 co-pilots. Mechanical failure was the most common cause, leading to 68 crashes (38 percent of the total), followed by bad weather (16 percent of the total). While the challenges such as bad weather and long travel distances associated with helicopter flights in the Gulf related to oil and gas operations are recognized, this study is noteworthy for examining the circumstances of the crashes. The article is published in the September issue of Aviation, Space and Environmental Medicine.

Researchers from the Johns Hopkins Center for Injury Research and Policy, part of the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, examined fatal and nonfatal crash records of the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) from 1983 to 2009. Analyses determined that the most common result of mechanical failure in both fatal and nonfatal crashes was loss of engine power, which occurred in almost one-third of fatal crashes. The majority of forced landings following mechanical failure occurred in water, with 20 percent resulting in the sinking of the helicopter despite the fact that most helicopters are being equipped with pilot-activated flotation devices.

Bad weather was the second most common precipitating factor for fatal and nonfatal crashes and was responsible for the largest number of deaths. In fact, bad weather was the only factor that significantly increased the risk of pilot death when a crash occurred. Pilot error was a major contributor to 83 crashes (47 percent), with poor decision-making the most prevalent error. For example, the NTSB conclusion for many of the bad-weather crashes was that the pilot should not proceeded in given the forecast or observed bad weather.

“This study raises concern about the safety of helicopter flights related to oil and gas operations in the Gulf of Mexico, particularly during bad weather,” said Susan P. Baker, MPH, professor with the Johns Hopkins Center for Injury Research and Policy and the paper’s lead author. “Our findings suggest that efforts to reduce crashes and deaths must address mechanical failure, non-activation of flotation devices, and pilot error.” Baker is a licensed private pilot and received the Aerospace Medical Association’s Harry G. Moseley Award in 2010 for her work applying the public health model to aviation safety.

The researchers also examined crash trends over the study time period and found an increase in the most recent time period, 8.2 annually during 2000 to 2009 versus 5.6 during 1983 to 1999. Following 2007, however, the researchers measured a decrease in crashes.

“While the apparent deterioration in safety over time is alarming, I am encouraged by the most recent data,” said Baker. “Only time will tell whether this is a temporary statistical blip or the beginning of a positive trend.”

Additional authors of “Helicopter Crashes Related to Oil and Gas Operations in the Gulf of Mexico” are Dennis F. Shanahan (associate faculty at the Johns Hopkins Center for Injury Research and Policy), Wren Haaland (consultant to the Johns Hopkins Center for Injury Research and Policy), Joanne Brady (Columbia University) and Guohua Li (Columbia University).

The research was funded by the National Institutes of Health and by grant funding from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to the Johns Hopkins Center for Injury Research and Policy.
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Old 26th Nov 2011, 07:25
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Mechanical failure was the most common cause
This is completely at odds with the IHST findings for helicopter accidents in the US.

Could this be because John Hopkins University included all ditchings?
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Old 28th Nov 2011, 17:56
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Very possibly.

There is a strong US lobby (certain GOM operators, their trade bodies, Bell and the less progressive oil companies) that are happy that cheap, low power, single engine helicopters (mostly 206s) fly two thirds of GOM flight hours and sectors. They will always use the weak US definitions of accidents to make their rates look better.

See hear the fuss when the NTSB wanted to make blades strikes accidents!
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Old 28th Nov 2011, 18:18
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Are there any stats that show what actually makes up the GOM fleet and how many. ie:

206 x ??
412 x ??

Etc.

BOTW
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Old 30th Nov 2011, 17:39
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2010 data

SINGLE ENGINE 314 (mostly 206s and 407s with a few AS350s and A119s)
LIGHT TWIN 43 (Bo105s, EC135s, B427/9)
MEDIUM TWIN 103 (mostly S76s, AW139s and some B412s)
HEAVY TWIN 23 (S-92s, 225s, 214STs)
TOTAL FLEET 483
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Old 1st Dec 2011, 01:33
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There is a strong US lobby
The annual OGP stats were/are also biased to show GOM ops with singles to be as safe as twin ops around the globe, so I would include all OGP members as party to this conspiracy.

About a decade ago a N Sea S76 suffered a lightning strike that was quoted in the OGP stats as an accident, yet numerous fatal accidents in the GOM were not counted. The basis for inclusion of the S76 was the cost of the repair. The natural conclusion from this is that the OGP place no $ value on the life of a pilot! Shameful.
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