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Old 24th Jul 2002, 00:52
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RR HBPR Engines

Living as close to an airport (Buffalo/Niagara Int'l) as I do, and being an incurable airliner buff, I spend my fair share of time watching take-offs & approaches. The driving range I frequent lies directly under the final approach. I've gotten to the point where I am pretty accurate at identifying airliners by sound, before I can see them. JT8-powered airliners (727's & DC-9's) are a snap---they're the loudest ones around. I have to listen a bit harder to distinguish a Super 80 from a 737---the 80's are a tad louder. Two airliners that sound just about identical to me are the A319, and Fokker F-100. The RR engines have a sound all their own---a VERY distinctive, subdued whine. Are the RR engines on the F-100 & A319 both 3-shaft layouts? Is this what gives the Rolls engines such a mellow purr?
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The RR Tay and all the RB211 family are 3 shaft engines (but not the IAE V2500). They will usually have a lower fan RPM than a 2-shaft engine as the fan speed is not compromised by having a smaller diameter LP compressor on the same shaft.

This usually means that the fan has a subsonic tip speed at approach power settings - typically 55-65%N1 - and will not be producing the 'buzz-saw' noise of a supersonic fan tip.

Maybe this is the difference that your hearing.
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Thanks for the reply. Is the V2500 one of the engines produced by the PW/RR collaboration? Is this the engine on the 717? I see lots of AirTran 717's coming & going---VERY quiet compared to the DC-9's they used to fly.
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The 717 uses the two shaft RR BR 715. I would guess you are just comparing older engines with newer ones.
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rolls royce engines

ever heard a rolls royce car? thats why the aero engines are also so quiet, understated- just like the english!
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Old 27th Jul 2002, 15:56
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Sorry Canberra,
Rolls Royce cars are now owned by BMW; building a new factory down near Chichester. The factory at Crewe is now owned by VAG (VW Audi) and soon to stop building RR's and concentrating of Bentley's.
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Let's hope that BMW's ownership of Rolls Royce doesn't end like the Rover debacle!!
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Have flown with RR engines for over twenty five years...the best in the business, IMHO.
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