R/T The Best Way
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R/T The Best Way
Can some of you lovely people give me a little advice on the R/T side of things?
I am currently reading Trevor Thoms R/T manual but I am worried that this may not be enough for the exams, both the compulsory JAR exam (part of PPL) and also for the FRTO licence.
Should I change my reading to CAP 413 or stick with Thom?
Also where is the nearest place to Exeter to take the FRTO exam and whats the cost? I've been told Bristol, but hopefully someone knows somewhere closer!
I am currently reading Trevor Thoms R/T manual but I am worried that this may not be enough for the exams, both the compulsory JAR exam (part of PPL) and also for the FRTO licence.
Should I change my reading to CAP 413 or stick with Thom?
Also where is the nearest place to Exeter to take the FRTO exam and whats the cost? I've been told Bristol, but hopefully someone knows somewhere closer!
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If it's the test paper you're talking about and not the practical R/T test then CAP 413 all the way and thoroughly.
You'll find that the phrases that appear in there are identical to the phrases in the actual test paper.
Eg:
Book: The following can disrupt radio communication: xxx, yyy, zzz.
Question paper: Which of the following can disrupt radio communication: vvv, www, xxx, yyy, zzz.
I don't know what you reckon of Mr Thom - I have all his books, but can't make much sense of some things. He's not as 'to the the point' as I'd like him to be.
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You'll find that the phrases that appear in there are identical to the phrases in the actual test paper.
Eg:
Book: The following can disrupt radio communication: xxx, yyy, zzz.
Question paper: Which of the following can disrupt radio communication: vvv, www, xxx, yyy, zzz.
I don't know what you reckon of Mr Thom - I have all his books, but can't make much sense of some things. He's not as 'to the the point' as I'd like him to be.
[This message has been edited by Superpilot (edited 14 May 2001).]
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The Examinations are based upon CAP 413 and the UK AIP however you may find some of the other books easier to read. You should also look at Safety Sense Leaflet 22 Radiotelephony http://www.srg.caa.co.uk/includes/ga/22leafle.pdf
A list of Examiners can be found on the CAA Website http://www.srg.caa.co.uk/documents/S...yexaminers.pdf
The cost varies from one examiner to another.
A list of Examiners can be found on the CAA Website http://www.srg.caa.co.uk/documents/S...yexaminers.pdf
The cost varies from one examiner to another.
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Although you definately should study CAP 413 and the CAA safety sense booklet, you might want to also consider;
a) buying a airband scanner and listening to yr local LARS service etc, this might add some extra value to the books (be aware though, that some of the RT from aircraft you may hear won't be textbook stuff, but listening to the controller's RT will probably help you).
b)buying one of the 'RT for PPL' audio tapes that are available.
Either way good luck!
a) buying a airband scanner and listening to yr local LARS service etc, this might add some extra value to the books (be aware though, that some of the RT from aircraft you may hear won't be textbook stuff, but listening to the controller's RT will probably help you).
b)buying one of the 'RT for PPL' audio tapes that are available.
Either way good luck!
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Thanks for the help guys. looks like CAP 413 will be on its way. On the Thom subject I think his book covers the basic calls without throwing any real life scenarios into it, ie. orbit calls, traffic calls, rejoins for right base etc. Already got a cheapy scanner which gets me good coverage around Exeter airport and it is helping when out training. Thanks again folks!!!
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Cessna Boy,
Yep go for CAP413, the only book really required for the R/T exam.
We had an ATCO as our R/T instructor at the Flying Club, which helped big time.
As for the written exam, not difficult. All of the answers are in CAP413, so there won't be any surprises. As for the practical, just putting the basics together into a script.
As was mentioned by Superpilot, read CAP413 through and through.
Yep go for CAP413, the only book really required for the R/T exam.
We had an ATCO as our R/T instructor at the Flying Club, which helped big time.
As for the written exam, not difficult. All of the answers are in CAP413, so there won't be any surprises. As for the practical, just putting the basics together into a script.
As was mentioned by Superpilot, read CAP413 through and through.
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Cessna Boy,
Probably wont help you much in the exams but in the real world its a God-send. Buy yourself a scanner and listen in to your local airport frequencies. Practice writing down the clearances from ground/delivery etc and follow along the conversations as they happen with tower/approach/dept etc. This will really help you when it comes to your own radio work whilst flying. Also lets you see that in the real world not everything is communicated verbatim from the CAA rule-book.
Teroc
Probably wont help you much in the exams but in the real world its a God-send. Buy yourself a scanner and listen in to your local airport frequencies. Practice writing down the clearances from ground/delivery etc and follow along the conversations as they happen with tower/approach/dept etc. This will really help you when it comes to your own radio work whilst flying. Also lets you see that in the real world not everything is communicated verbatim from the CAA rule-book.
Teroc
