737 or A320 type-rating
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737 or A320 type-rating
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Before you shoot me down, I don't intend on flying as a career.
I am working towards a CPL/MEIR (just because I wan't to acheive this).
After completing the CPL/MEIR I would like to do a B737 or A320 type-rating. As I don't intend on flying for a career this is my only chance to really understand how to fly these aircraft. I would also be interested in doing some line training.
Could anyone recommend a company that offers the type-ratings and line training? I have heard CSA do something like this.
This may or may not sound strange but it's the closest I'll get to flying the real thing without trying to get a career doing it.
Cheers
Before you shoot me down, I don't intend on flying as a career.
I am working towards a CPL/MEIR (just because I wan't to acheive this).
After completing the CPL/MEIR I would like to do a B737 or A320 type-rating. As I don't intend on flying for a career this is my only chance to really understand how to fly these aircraft. I would also be interested in doing some line training.
Could anyone recommend a company that offers the type-ratings and line training? I have heard CSA do something like this.
This may or may not sound strange but it's the closest I'll get to flying the real thing without trying to get a career doing it.
Cheers
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Then surely it makes little difference? Apart from the fact that in this brave new world, your intentions and desires may sound alarm bells with some establishments.
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WHAT??? Im sorry but I don't understand! Why on earth would you spend thousands of pounds on a type rating and CPL just for the hell of it, not intending actually getting a job flying them??? It takes most of us years of living in poverty and relying on shear determination to go through the motions of becoming an airline pilot......and you want to do it because your just curious about how airliners work? I yet have to experience the pleasure. What a waste of money. Why not do some good with it and donate it to a charity!
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If you've got serious money to burn and you really want to fly an airliner then go for it. I could imagine a few people wanting to do something like this if they happened to win the lottery. Unfortunately due to 9/11, your motives will be closely scrutinised.
If you've got it, flaunt it!
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Any airline who's got them will give you a rating on them if you go and pay the money. Qantas, Virgin Blue, Air NZ / Freedom Air being the obvious candidates down under. I know the main Qantas sim base is in Melbourne, why not give them a call and find out?
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even if i had money to burn like you apparently do, i would not do it, career or not. you can do much more multi or general fun hours for same cost.
for the same cost you can buy a pack of multi hours. single-pilot Multi ifr in serious ifr conditions is a challenge.
a 737 is just heavier and faster than your average multi. I think that sim checks in companies are a bit contrversial, i have seen instructors with 1000s of hours fail them just because they did not master some of the SYSTEMS on anew type, but they damn know how to fly (ex-military jet).
In fact, commuters in US put you in a general ifr sim, and not full motion type-specific, which makes more sense.
General experience is very more important also (weather, atc, ..)
All airplanes fly tne same, only speeds and weigth change (just read the poh.).
Almost anyone can read a POH and master the systems (airplanes aren't that complex), especially after the JAA courses which are a bit of an overkill.
for the same cost you can buy a pack of multi hours. single-pilot Multi ifr in serious ifr conditions is a challenge.
a 737 is just heavier and faster than your average multi. I think that sim checks in companies are a bit contrversial, i have seen instructors with 1000s of hours fail them just because they did not master some of the SYSTEMS on anew type, but they damn know how to fly (ex-military jet).
In fact, commuters in US put you in a general ifr sim, and not full motion type-specific, which makes more sense.
General experience is very more important also (weather, atc, ..)
All airplanes fly tne same, only speeds and weigth change (just read the poh.).
Almost anyone can read a POH and master the systems (airplanes aren't that complex), especially after the JAA courses which are a bit of an overkill.
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rich49,
Do you think spending $40,000 on a car is a waste of money? I do!
And why can't I do the CPL? I love aviation just as much as you!
Just because I have the money to pay for it doesn't mean they just give it away.
You're not in the exculsive club of wanting to be a airline pilot, join the queue mate!
And one more thing, I said don't shot me down, I'm not using the TR to get a job like some people, so you should focus you anger elsewhere.
Everyone else who applied, thank you for you thoughts.
Do you think spending $40,000 on a car is a waste of money? I do!
And why can't I do the CPL? I love aviation just as much as you!
Just because I have the money to pay for it doesn't mean they just give it away.
You're not in the exculsive club of wanting to be a airline pilot, join the queue mate!
And one more thing, I said don't shot me down, I'm not using the TR to get a job like some people, so you should focus you anger elsewhere.
Everyone else who applied, thank you for you thoughts.
Why do it if it's not fun?
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Kram,
I have no idea which would be best - I guess it's just whichever you fancy. Personally, I'd go for the 737 - if I wanted to fly an airliner with a joystick I'd do it at home on MS Flight Sim
But that's my personal preference.
The main reason for posting, though, was to tell you to ignore those jealous idiots who are telling you not to waste your money. Guys, just because you've chosen to enter a profession where you need to get yourself into debt to become qualified, and once you're qualified you stand very little chance of ever becoming rich, that doesn't entitle you to question the motives of others who have made a different choice. Kram obviously has the desire to learn to fly big jets. But money is clearly more important to him than flying. Based on those priorities, he's made the choice to not enter commercial aviation, but to keep his current career, whatever it is, and enjoy the financial benefits. These financial benefits include doing something which those of us who have chosen less well-paid careers will never be able to do - get a type rating on a large jet purely for fun. Time after time we've seen posts on this forum, recommending to newbies that if they want to become rich they should not become a pilot. Now here's someone who's followed that advice, and we're criticizing his decisions???
Kram, to me, doing something I love for a living, rather than sitting behind a desk bored out of my mind for 8 hours a day, is more important than being rich. You've obviously got different priorities - well done on sticking to what's right for you, and good luck with your type rating. In fact, I'd love to see a post describing how you found the training once you've completed it.
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I have no idea which would be best - I guess it's just whichever you fancy. Personally, I'd go for the 737 - if I wanted to fly an airliner with a joystick I'd do it at home on MS Flight Sim
But that's my personal preference.The main reason for posting, though, was to tell you to ignore those jealous idiots who are telling you not to waste your money. Guys, just because you've chosen to enter a profession where you need to get yourself into debt to become qualified, and once you're qualified you stand very little chance of ever becoming rich, that doesn't entitle you to question the motives of others who have made a different choice. Kram obviously has the desire to learn to fly big jets. But money is clearly more important to him than flying. Based on those priorities, he's made the choice to not enter commercial aviation, but to keep his current career, whatever it is, and enjoy the financial benefits. These financial benefits include doing something which those of us who have chosen less well-paid careers will never be able to do - get a type rating on a large jet purely for fun. Time after time we've seen posts on this forum, recommending to newbies that if they want to become rich they should not become a pilot. Now here's someone who's followed that advice, and we're criticizing his decisions???
Kram, to me, doing something I love for a living, rather than sitting behind a desk bored out of my mind for 8 hours a day, is more important than being rich. You've obviously got different priorities - well done on sticking to what's right for you, and good luck with your type rating. In fact, I'd love to see a post describing how you found the training once you've completed it.
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For blatting around purposes I would use the 737-200.
a) Its one of the few aircraft still commonly around that is very LOUD. And thats important.
b) Simpler systems - you don't want to be in Groundschool for weeks learning the nuances of control law logic. You want to be blasting off runways empty and bursting through stratus at 6000fpm...
c) Ratings on this type are available and cheapish - no need to burn money for the sake of it.
d) Its a nice handling aircraft - much less pitch couple than other types.
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a) Its one of the few aircraft still commonly around that is very LOUD. And thats important.
b) Simpler systems - you don't want to be in Groundschool for weeks learning the nuances of control law logic. You want to be blasting off runways empty and bursting through stratus at 6000fpm...
c) Ratings on this type are available and cheapish - no need to burn money for the sake of it.
d) Its a nice handling aircraft - much less pitch couple than other types.
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