Calling Irish pilots... Aerial flight school in Dublin
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URL is <a href="http://www.airportflyingclub.com/" target="_blank">http://www.airportflyingclub.com/</a> and email is [email protected]. I don't have a phone number. Let me know if you get any answer as I'd be interested in getting some info on them. My email is [email protected]
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Hey Determined,
[quote] We have Aer Lingus, Ryanair and Aer Arann skippers amongst members <hr></blockquote>
I may not be the most active member, but don't forget CityJet !!! <img src="wink.gif" border="0">
[quote] We have Aer Lingus, Ryanair and Aer Arann skippers amongst members <hr></blockquote>
I may not be the most active member, but don't forget CityJet !!! <img src="wink.gif" border="0">
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Hello,
My name is Ciaran Mitchell. I'm the "Membership Secretary" for the Airport Flying Club. I also set up the web site (no joke!) <img src="smile.gif" border="0">
This thread has just come to my attention, so sorry for not replying sooner.
A little info about the club...
We're a non profit, non commercial flying club based in Dublin Airport. We operate two aircraft, a Cessna 172 and a Cessna 150. Both aircraft are in excellent condition and access and availability of the aircraft is excellent.
Our rates are €500 per annum membership plus a *once off* joining fee of €125.
The rental rates of the two aircraft are:
C150: €90.00 per hour (tacho). .C172: €115.00 per hour (tacho)
New members are always very welcome. Simply email me.
Unfortunately, we can only cater for a very limited number of student pilots. The reason for this is that our instructors are part time volunteers. As such, each instructor can train only a limited number of students. Unfortunately at this time, we have no free instructors to take on additional students.
My email address is [email protected]. It is not "inactive". I reply to each and every request I get. If someone on the board has not heard back from me - something is wrong, please let me know by replying in this thread.
If anyone has further questions, please don't hesitate to contact me.
Best regards.
Ciaran.
My name is Ciaran Mitchell. I'm the "Membership Secretary" for the Airport Flying Club. I also set up the web site (no joke!) <img src="smile.gif" border="0">
This thread has just come to my attention, so sorry for not replying sooner.
A little info about the club...
We're a non profit, non commercial flying club based in Dublin Airport. We operate two aircraft, a Cessna 172 and a Cessna 150. Both aircraft are in excellent condition and access and availability of the aircraft is excellent.
Our rates are €500 per annum membership plus a *once off* joining fee of €125.
The rental rates of the two aircraft are:
C150: €90.00 per hour (tacho). .C172: €115.00 per hour (tacho)
New members are always very welcome. Simply email me.
Unfortunately, we can only cater for a very limited number of student pilots. The reason for this is that our instructors are part time volunteers. As such, each instructor can train only a limited number of students. Unfortunately at this time, we have no free instructors to take on additional students.
My email address is [email protected]. It is not "inactive". I reply to each and every request I get. If someone on the board has not heard back from me - something is wrong, please let me know by replying in this thread.
If anyone has further questions, please don't hesitate to contact me.
Best regards.
Ciaran.
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Ciaran,
Apologies for suggesting that you account was inactive... problems my end. Your club does indeed seem highly professional and well-run. Congratulations to you and all your members!
Apologies for suggesting that you account was inactive... problems my end. Your club does indeed seem highly professional and well-run. Congratulations to you and all your members!
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No problem ATPLwannabeboy.
Its interesting Aerial are training to ATPL now. The last time I checked, no one in Ireland could train beyond the PPL because of JAR compliance.. .Do you know if you can now get an IR with them also?
Best of luck with your training.
Ciaran.
Its interesting Aerial are training to ATPL now. The last time I checked, no one in Ireland could train beyond the PPL because of JAR compliance.. .Do you know if you can now get an IR with them also?
Best of luck with your training.
Ciaran.
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I’d recommend the three flying clubs at the Westlands end of DUB for initial PPL training. All operate to the highest standards and DUB provides an excellent, disciplined environment rather than the free-for-all which exists at Weston, an aerodrome which I now refuse to use. The downside is that it may take a bit longer to gain your PPL in any of these clubs, due to the voluntary nature of the instruction.
Apart from the Airport Flying Club, there is the Leinster Club which operates an immaculate 150 Aerobat and the Dublin Flying Club, which operates an Arrow and PA28-140. I believe their Arrow is available for a ridiculous100 euro per tacho hour.
I’ve had a two dealings with Aerial, and on both occasions found them to be quite unhelpful. I’ve done realistic sums on training for fATPL and 36,000 euro sounds incredibly cheap — but I won’t be spending my money there!
Gash
Apart from the Airport Flying Club, there is the Leinster Club which operates an immaculate 150 Aerobat and the Dublin Flying Club, which operates an Arrow and PA28-140. I believe their Arrow is available for a ridiculous100 euro per tacho hour.
I’ve had a two dealings with Aerial, and on both occasions found them to be quite unhelpful. I’ve done realistic sums on training for fATPL and 36,000 euro sounds incredibly cheap — but I won’t be spending my money there!
Gash
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Ciaran, I do believe you can do an IR with Aerial, but looking at Gash's experiences with them I would be rather reluctant to get involved even though their rates are reasonably good as well. Gash, can you be more specific about your experiences with Aerial? Regarding wx worries that everyone has, I really don't understand why people are so worried about it... plenty of people train in the UK which has basically the same problem. Just think of all the IFR and marginal VFR practice you'll get! The only reason I would consider Aerial is because as you know it's not worth it to be in a hurry right now as our chances are pretty slim of hopping into the left seat of a a 738 after you get your ATPL, and the saving on accomadation casts alone would be phenomenal. Actually come to think of it I may well offer my services voluntarily to your club Ciaran after I get my CFI. Free PIC hours!
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I actually did my PPL with Aerial before joining Airport Flying Club.
I think there are areas for improvement alright, but I had no complaints. One thing with Aerial I remember is that you tended to get a different instructor almost every time. I think its better if you could be allocated an instructor who could continually track you progress (as with our club). Pretty difficult I guess for an organisation as busy as Aerial.
I think there are areas for improvement alright, but I had no complaints. One thing with Aerial I remember is that you tended to get a different instructor almost every time. I think its better if you could be allocated an instructor who could continually track you progress (as with our club). Pretty difficult I guess for an organisation as busy as Aerial.
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ATPLwannabeboy,
My decision not to train there is based on two considerations.
Although I have no experience of flight training at Aerial, I’ve had other dealings with them and found their attitude to be pretty dreadful.
In my opinion, flying procedures in the vicinity of Weston leave a lot to be desired and my last two experiences a few years back in the circuit there were enough for me to vow never to visit it again!
Gash
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My decision not to train there is based on two considerations.
Although I have no experience of flight training at Aerial, I’ve had other dealings with them and found their attitude to be pretty dreadful.
In my opinion, flying procedures in the vicinity of Weston leave a lot to be desired and my last two experiences a few years back in the circuit there were enough for me to vow never to visit it again!
Gash
(Edited for stupidity.)
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Thanks for the info, Gash. Do Aerial have their own runway and facilities etc... no VASI/ILS/VOR/NDB I assume? Or do they use Dublin Airport facilities? I agree about ATC around Weston... nonexistent. Although I'm sure most other clubs are much better. Were the "bad deals" you had with Aerial related to your training issues, may I ask?
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This thread has become a discussion about certain flying clubs, and is no longer particularly relevant to ATPL Wannabes. Please remember that the Private Flying forum exists for exactly this purpose, and that Wannabes is for issues directly related to the obtaining of a professional flying licence or a first commercial job.. .Unless this thread gets back on that track, I shall move it to Private Flying.
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Gash,
Ignore what I said about "Were the "bad deals" you had with Aerial related to your training issues, may I ask?"... not reading too well today! <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> But does anyone know anything about their airport facilities?
Ignore what I said about "Were the "bad deals" you had with Aerial related to your training issues, may I ask?"... not reading too well today! <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> But does anyone know anything about their airport facilities?
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Just out of curiosity, does anyone know upon what level of candidate experience this 36,000-euro fATPL price tag at Aerial Advertising is based?
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It's SUPPOSED to be ab-initio, but I'd advise you to check that. If it's Weston's facilities I wouldn't be too enthusiatic to tell the truth. I sent a mail to Aerial 2 days ago asking all manner of questions about facilities, pass rates, tours etc, no response yet. I'm starting my PPL today, anyone think the wx is good enough out there?
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ATPLwannabeboy,
Here's a really handy site:
<a href="http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/EIDW.html" target="_blank">http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/EIDW.html</a>
At the moment it's recording 18KT from NE direction variable (020V080), which means you may have a slightly bumpy ride. If it's your first flight in a C172 or C152, it may not be ideal - depends on yourself.
Enjoy.
Here's a really handy site:
<a href="http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/EIDW.html" target="_blank">http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/EIDW.html</a>
At the moment it's recording 18KT from NE direction variable (020V080), which means you may have a slightly bumpy ride. If it's your first flight in a C172 or C152, it may not be ideal - depends on yourself.
Enjoy.
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Guys,
I just finished my intro flight... great fun and very informative. Just one question. Is it usual to let the student land the aircraft the first time?
I just finished my intro flight... great fun and very informative. Just one question. Is it usual to let the student land the aircraft the first time?
ATPLwannabeboy,
Irelands flying schools and clubs are sadly lacking facilites, airplanes and weather. If you have the required money and want to invest in your future, I believe that its best for you to look at some of the JAA Approved schools in the USA or even Europe.
If however you are like a lot of us who couldnt afford to fork out that kind of money and therefore only fly when the money is available, I would suggest that you go to Aerial or the National Flight Center as it's now known.
Good Luck.
Mutt.
Irelands flying schools and clubs are sadly lacking facilites, airplanes and weather. If you have the required money and want to invest in your future, I believe that its best for you to look at some of the JAA Approved schools in the USA or even Europe.
If however you are like a lot of us who couldnt afford to fork out that kind of money and therefore only fly when the money is available, I would suggest that you go to Aerial or the National Flight Center as it's now known.
Good Luck.
Mutt.
