(FAA to JAA) or (JAA to FAA) ?
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(FAA to JAA) or (JAA to FAA) ?
Which is easier? I see that Naples and EFT do enticing Pro courses, i.e. commercial, multi, intrument, FI.
For example, Naples follows the FAA 141 Pro route. Hypothetically, if I were to, as a Brit, need to convert to JAA, how much of a pain the derriere (bum) would this be?
On the other hand, EFT follows the JAA route. Once you have all the pro ratings, I see there's about 30 hours extra flying time spent converting over to FAA.
For example, Naples follows the FAA 141 Pro route. Hypothetically, if I were to, as a Brit, need to convert to JAA, how much of a pain the derriere (bum) would this be?
On the other hand, EFT follows the JAA route. Once you have all the pro ratings, I see there's about 30 hours extra flying time spent converting over to FAA.
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Ok,
For starters, converting an FAA ATPL to a JAR ATPL is a very painful process.
Have a wander over to CAA SRG and have a look at the various GID's.
As far as I am aware you cannot sit the FAA ATPL exams untill you have 1500 hours.
The CAA will now let you convert an ICAO IR to a JAR one. You need to do a minimum of 15 hours. This has reduced the cost. Previously, no credit was given and it was a full JAR IR again.
For starters, converting an FAA ATPL to a JAR ATPL is a very painful process.
Have a wander over to CAA SRG and have a look at the various GID's.
As far as I am aware you cannot sit the FAA ATPL exams untill you have 1500 hours.
The CAA will now let you convert an ICAO IR to a JAR one. You need to do a minimum of 15 hours. This has reduced the cost. Previously, no credit was given and it was a full JAR IR again.
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be ready to struggle!
hello,
I dont know how it is to do a JAA license, but I started long time ago with a FAA license in any US flight school.
do IFR here, and FAA cpl there, ...I traveled several years in the USA teaching for some very small schools.At this time, they were some jobs ,so after when I passed my CFI, I have bought a car and visited flight schools and I have found some jobs. Not well paid but at least I was flying some c152/172/180/seneca/archer....then I did my US ATP and actually I am on a reconvertion for JAA license.
with my logbook and the several thousand hours I have loged during all these years, I think I have more chance to get a job in europe .Like this I will save money but it was hard, very hard.I mean the job, the students, the hours, the insults becasue I am not a US citizen and english is not my first language. I dont know if one day I will fly for an airline, But i have been to far to stop now.its a long struggle my friend. it s not easy. You have to be the best and very very motivated.
Most of my friend stoped to fly or some are now dead in aircraft accidents(www.ntsb.gov).I dont want to discourage you, but think twice before to start your training.
All schools are good(www.beapilot.com).depends of the CFI you have. Some are very good and some are motivated to teach you, some dont give a **** about you.so watch out.it s a crual world.
If i had to do it again, I wont...but as I said, it s the only thing I know to do. I lost the skill required in my previous job and I dont like to loose.I like success .
what is the life of a cfi?: you eat cat and dog food everyday. You dont go out, you share appart with roommates.you are under paid for the job you do and the only time when you really smile, it s when you totalize your hours.when you apply in airlines, they still want more and more.3000 h of jet, B737 or airbus and then they ask for a special model , do you have 300hours in the last 6 months of the B737-700, the one with the blue carpet inside?, not the red carpet...???yes, sound ridiculous, but it s like this and it will be always be like this. so are you ready to struggle and to finish at 40 yo with 3000h or less and maybe no job at the end.
if you decide to struggle like me, I wish you good luck whatever you decide to do!
I dont know how it is to do a JAA license, but I started long time ago with a FAA license in any US flight school.
do IFR here, and FAA cpl there, ...I traveled several years in the USA teaching for some very small schools.At this time, they were some jobs ,so after when I passed my CFI, I have bought a car and visited flight schools and I have found some jobs. Not well paid but at least I was flying some c152/172/180/seneca/archer....then I did my US ATP and actually I am on a reconvertion for JAA license.
with my logbook and the several thousand hours I have loged during all these years, I think I have more chance to get a job in europe .Like this I will save money but it was hard, very hard.I mean the job, the students, the hours, the insults becasue I am not a US citizen and english is not my first language. I dont know if one day I will fly for an airline, But i have been to far to stop now.its a long struggle my friend. it s not easy. You have to be the best and very very motivated.
Most of my friend stoped to fly or some are now dead in aircraft accidents(www.ntsb.gov).I dont want to discourage you, but think twice before to start your training.
All schools are good(www.beapilot.com).depends of the CFI you have. Some are very good and some are motivated to teach you, some dont give a **** about you.so watch out.it s a crual world.
If i had to do it again, I wont...but as I said, it s the only thing I know to do. I lost the skill required in my previous job and I dont like to loose.I like success .
what is the life of a cfi?: you eat cat and dog food everyday. You dont go out, you share appart with roommates.you are under paid for the job you do and the only time when you really smile, it s when you totalize your hours.when you apply in airlines, they still want more and more.3000 h of jet, B737 or airbus and then they ask for a special model , do you have 300hours in the last 6 months of the B737-700, the one with the blue carpet inside?, not the red carpet...???yes, sound ridiculous, but it s like this and it will be always be like this. so are you ready to struggle and to finish at 40 yo with 3000h or less and maybe no job at the end.
if you decide to struggle like me, I wish you good luck whatever you decide to do!
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Hmm...so on a straw poll here, doing JAA then converting to FAA may be easier. Well, appears I'll stick to my original plan of weekend instructing. Will improve my flying and if anything more pro comes up, well hey, that's an added bonus.
