Another Wannabe Cannabe
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Another Wannabe Cannabe
Oh well, just got the news from the CAA - I'm a risk to everyone because I had a single convulsion more than five years ago. (My interperetation of their words). Medical will be denied.
I can come back in five years and have another go. I'm 34 now so not too sure that this is going to happen. I've also been informed that I may only fly as a passenger.
I can't stress this point enough - before paying a penny: GET YOUR MEDICAL.
Goodbye all - happy flying ... ...
Over an' out.
I can come back in five years and have another go. I'm 34 now so not too sure that this is going to happen. I've also been informed that I may only fly as a passenger.
I can't stress this point enough - before paying a penny: GET YOUR MEDICAL.
Goodbye all - happy flying ... ...
Over an' out.
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E-Fizz
APPEAL!!!
Are you epileptic, or is your problem a random one? For example, I know that an epileptic having seizures/convulsions, may not drive a car UNTIL they have been free of such 'fits' for 2 years.
With this in mind, surely there must be some similar rule for flying.
Get another opinion - see a neurologist if necessary, (privately if you can, for speed), and get him/her to write you out a report detailing the fact you have been convulsion free for 5 years.
Best of luck
FD
APPEAL!!!
Are you epileptic, or is your problem a random one? For example, I know that an epileptic having seizures/convulsions, may not drive a car UNTIL they have been free of such 'fits' for 2 years.
With this in mind, surely there must be some similar rule for flying.
Get another opinion - see a neurologist if necessary, (privately if you can, for speed), and get him/her to write you out a report detailing the fact you have been convulsion free for 5 years.
Best of luck
FD
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E-FIZZ: I am really sorry to hear that. 
Every time I read one of these I feel for the person. As was mentioned above, try a Consultant. Ask the CAA what they would say to an independent examination. You never know.... All the best with it mate, I hope it works out in the end!
Eff Oh.
Every time I read one of these I feel for the person. As was mentioned above, try a Consultant. Ask the CAA what they would say to an independent examination. You never know.... All the best with it mate, I hope it works out in the end!Eff Oh.
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The let down hasn't sunk in yet. I feel very angry about the situation and my grounds of appeal are being reduced. The problem lies with the way the JAA rules are worded. There is a clause highlighting seizures and a section that says a single event with a 'non-recurrent' cause 'may' be allowed. This is me - the cause was bottomed out and found to be non-recurrent. The problem lies with the word 'may'. Any place this word occurs I will bet my bottom dollar the CAA translation will be 'wont'.
After the incident I was seen by a professor of neurology at one of the most respected hospitals dealing with this field in the country. I subsequently passed all the tests he instructed me to undergo. Although he instructed me not to drive for one year, he was happy to discharge me without prescribing anti-convulsant drugs and all the other unfortunate restricions that would go with being a 'diagnosed epileptic'. Of course, aviation neurology is different...
The DVLA will remove a HGV license for ten years in the event of an epileptic seizure. Although I can't find any section where the same is written in the JAA/CAA rules, the CAA seem to have decided to adopt this clause as well.
As the case isn't black and white I think an appeal will be very difficult. When it comes down to conjecture the CAA are going to win - of this I have no doubt.
(Edited to add comment to Ef Oh - thanks a lot for the reply mate, it means a lot. Happy flying)
[This message has been edited by E-Fizz (edited 27 April 2001).]
After the incident I was seen by a professor of neurology at one of the most respected hospitals dealing with this field in the country. I subsequently passed all the tests he instructed me to undergo. Although he instructed me not to drive for one year, he was happy to discharge me without prescribing anti-convulsant drugs and all the other unfortunate restricions that would go with being a 'diagnosed epileptic'. Of course, aviation neurology is different...
The DVLA will remove a HGV license for ten years in the event of an epileptic seizure. Although I can't find any section where the same is written in the JAA/CAA rules, the CAA seem to have decided to adopt this clause as well.
As the case isn't black and white I think an appeal will be very difficult. When it comes down to conjecture the CAA are going to win - of this I have no doubt.
(Edited to add comment to Ef Oh - thanks a lot for the reply mate, it means a lot. Happy flying)
[This message has been edited by E-Fizz (edited 27 April 2001).]
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E-Fizz
Sorry, didn't realise that you had gone quite so far down the line with regards to trying to get your medical. One point:-
I assumed that you were trying for a class 1 medical - is this the case, or was it a class 2?
Reason I'm asking is because obviously, they are stricter with the class 1.
On the 'may be' subject, I too was for quite a while under the 'may' be granted a certificate cloud, but came out on top, (re class 2). If you want further details, I could e-mail you.
So, don't give up just yet - JAA is constantly undergoing review, you never know
FD
Sorry, didn't realise that you had gone quite so far down the line with regards to trying to get your medical. One point:-
I assumed that you were trying for a class 1 medical - is this the case, or was it a class 2?
Reason I'm asking is because obviously, they are stricter with the class 1.
On the 'may be' subject, I too was for quite a while under the 'may' be granted a certificate cloud, but came out on top, (re class 2). If you want further details, I could e-mail you.
So, don't give up just yet - JAA is constantly undergoing review, you never know
FD
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I haven't received the official letter yet, just had a drawn out telephone conversation with the CAA doc who told me the bad news this morning. I wanted Class 1. I believe from what the doc told me that I am also excluded from flying solo in any aircraft. I can only conclude from this that I am also excluded from being able to hold Class 2. I haven't got the official reply in my possesion yet so I must tread carefully on what I say, but I hope you get the picture. I'd very much like to hear of your experiences FD, please email me: [email protected]
I haven't received the official letter yet, just had a drawn out telephone conversation with the CAA doc who told me the bad news this morning. I wanted Class 1. I believe from what the doc told me that I am also excluded from flying solo in any aircraft. I can only conclude from this that I am also excluded from being able to hold Class 2. I haven't got the official reply in my possesion yet so I must tread carefully on what I say, but I hope you get the picture. I'd very much like to hear of your experiences FD, please email me: [email protected]
