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Old 20th May 2024, 12:59
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Oh really, I assume there must be some benefits available to claim as a student?
If you’re a full time student you’re not eligible for most benefits. However I actually think you were right that you’re definitely not employed and I think you’ll technically be classed as unemployed rather than a student (that’s the case for TUI cadets and I’d be surprised if it was different for BA) however you’ll probably still be ineligible for most benefits, e.g. you can’t get Job Seekers Allowance because you won’t do any of the stuff required.
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Old 20th May 2024, 13:00
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Originally Posted by Ksw84
Oh really, I assume there must be some benefits available to claim as a student?
This is not classed as full time education - that means a learning establishment such as college, university etc - This is job training
Plus, you're not actively seeking work either
No benefits and no support from Gov - Sorry, not the answer you want to hear
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Old 20th May 2024, 13:03
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Originally Posted by TOPS
This is not classed as full time education - that means a learning establishment such as college, university etc - This is job training
No benefits and no support from Gov - Sorry, not the answer you want to hear

I think I will drop a call to Citizen's Advice as it isn't clear on the Gov.uk as I have dependants and my wife is a low income earner so I would think there would be some support available for us considering I've worked for 25 years!
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Old 20th May 2024, 13:10
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Originally Posted by TOPS
This is not classed as full time education - that means a learning establishment such as college, university etc - This is job training
Plus, you're not actively seeking work either
No benefits and no support from Gov - Sorry, not the answer you want to hear
I can't see how they can class it as job training when its my understanding BA give a conditional offer subject to completing the flight school
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Old 20th May 2024, 13:10
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Brilliant news! Mine has also changed. Now we just wait to see if we're through in the next couple of days.

Praying for all of you!
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Old 20th May 2024, 13:12
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Originally Posted by Ksw84
I think I will Citizen's Advice as it isn't clear on the Gov.uk as I have dependants and my wife is a low income earner so I would think there would be some support available for us considering I've worked for 25 years!
I used to work for Citizen’s Advice (but that was quite a few years ago now) and as per my previous post, even given what you’ve just said, I think you’re being very optimistic about your eligibility. Indeed even though harsh, it makes some sense given that you’ve knowingly and willingly put yourself in a position of not earning any money/just £100pw.

Nonetheless, you should definitely do further research and there’s no harm in trying to apply but I’d recommend not getting your hopes up or making plans that rely on additional support from benefits.
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Old 20th May 2024, 13:17
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Originally Posted by SpecOps
I used to work for Citizen’s Advice (but that was quite a few years ago now) and as per my previous post, even given what you’ve just said, I think you’re being very optimistic about your eligibility. Indeed even though harsh, it makes some sense given that you’ve knowingly and willingly put yourself in a position of not earning any money.

Nonetheless, you should definitely do further research and there’s no harm in trying to apply but I’d recommend not getting your hopes up or making plans that rely on additional support from benefits.

Thanks for the insight, I have a back up plan but seems unfair given the circumstances. I will give them a call on the hope but I think your advice will probably still stand. Thanks for the reply 👍
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Old 20th May 2024, 13:20
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Originally Posted by Ksw84
I think I will drop a call to Citizen's Advice as it isn't clear on the Gov.uk as I have dependants and my wife is a low income earner so I would think there would be some support available for us considering I've worked for 25 years!
I don't think they factor in how long you have worked, but more so if your wife is a low income earner - that has to go in your favour (if you have more than £6k in savings, I think that goes against you (the more you have the less you'll get)

Try Citizen's advice as well as see if you can ring the call centre at DWP who make all the benefit payments.

Best of luck and let us know how you get on
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Old 20th May 2024, 13:29
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Originally Posted by TOPS
I don't think they factor in how long you have worked, but more so if your wife is a low income earner - that has to go in your favour (if you have more than £6k in savings, I think that goes against you (the more you have the less you'll get)

Try Citizen's advice as well as see if you can ring the call centre at DWP who make all the benefit payments.

Best of luck and let us know how you get on

Will do, thanks for the advice. All my money is tied up in property anyway so the 6k is not an issue but my wife works PT on about minimum wage. The online benefits calculator is as clear as mud!
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Old 20th May 2024, 15:21
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Status changed

Mine has also changed to Skyborne this morning
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Old 20th May 2024, 16:33
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But I'd be happy to spend the whole period away from the Mrs!
🤣🤣🤣 this made me laugh! My husband would probably be glad to be rid of me for the duration lol at least then I won't be bending his ear about flying and BA 🙈🙊

FTE is a full school in Jerez so you're located there the full duration of training. I picked Jerez as I've young kids and Spain isn't much further from Dublin than England anyway...plus time differences etc. I'd be happy with either though, FTE just seemed more suitable at the time.
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Old 20th May 2024, 16:51
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For those who got to this stage last time but didnt progress to the flight school interview, did your status change ?
yeh this would be really great to know before getting our hopes up. Mine just changed to Skyborne too…
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Old 20th May 2024, 17:12
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Originally Posted by SierraLimaJuliette
🤣🤣🤣 this made me laugh! My husband would probably be glad to be rid of me for the duration lol at least then I won't be bending his ear about flying and BA 🙈🙊

FTE is a full school in Jerez so you're located there the full duration of training. I picked Jerez as I've young kids and Spain isn't much further from Dublin than England anyway...plus time differences etc. I'd be happy with either though, FTE just seemed more suitable at the time.

And that's the dilemma i guess, 18 months at a location that's a couple of hours from the UK or 7 months in the US where coming home/seeing family would be impossible. I have family who live in Orlando so I guess that should be a factor
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I think I will drop a call to Citizen's Advice as it isn't clear on the Gov.uk as I have dependants and my wife is a low income earner so I would think there would be some support available for us considering I've worked for 25 years!
I wouldn’t wave the ‘I’ve worked 25 years!’ card, bit too GB News.

Your wife becoming the sole earner with a low ish income would be your angle in terms of working tax credits etc. That’s where I’d focus as it’d seem to tick a lot of boxes. Failing that, you’ve got a few months for her to become less part time, or earning more, or fingers crossed even both. Have a Google or forums search for what people do when their partners go to uni. That’s effectively what this is in terms of how it’ll impact her.

But for you to expect to get money to subsidise your active decision to leave a previous job to pursue a jolly which will see you on yhe right side of £100K a year as a captain within about six years should you so desire… Seems a little odd if I’m honest. After all, no-one’s forcing you to do it!

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Old 20th May 2024, 17:53
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I wouldn’t wave the ‘I’ve worked 25 years!’ card, bit too GB News.

Your wife becoming the sole earner with a low ish income would be your angle in terms of working tax credits etc. That’s where I’d focus as it’d seem to tick a lot of boxes. Failing that, you’ve got a few months for her to become less part time, or earning more, or fingers crossed even both. Have a Google or forums search for what people do when their partners go to uni. That’s effectively what this is in terms of how it’ll impact her.

But for you to expect to get money to subsidise your active decision to leave a previous job to pursue a jolly which will see you on the thick end of £150K a year as a captain within about six years should you so desire… Seems a little odd if I’m honest. After all no-one’s forcing you to do it!
Fair point, I have always been the main bread winner so to speak so my wife works PT around my shifts to accommodate childcare, obviously I am aware of the financial implications of joining this program but to say we'd be earning 150k a year within 6 years seems quite ambitious considering the 7 year bond etc. I haven't seen anyone post pay scales so if you have those to hand I'd be very keen to see them.

I wasn't intending my last post ti read that I had a sense of entitlement to benefits, it was merely to highlight that I have never claimed any benefits so have no idea of the process/application
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Fair point, I have always been the main bread winner so to speak so my wife works PT around my shifts to accommodate childcare, obviously I am aware of the financial implications of joining this program but to say we'd be earning 150k a year within 6 years seems quite ambitious considering the 7 year bond etc. I haven't seen anyone post pay scales so if you have those to hand I'd be very keen to see them.

I wasn't intending my last post ti read that I had a sense of entitlement to benefits, it was merely to highlight that I have never claimed any benefits so have no idea of the process/application
Thats a good point about the scales, pass as to how they’d implement them. The extreme example is you get a command, hammer hours and DEC to J2/Ezy up North on very good money for that stage in your career. And I get the reason plenty of people want BA is to try the longhaul beach thing. At least you’ll have options.

Were it me if use my current job to load up on 0% credit cards with as long a repayment holiday as I could. Can likely get some that won’t need repayment until you’ve flying a year. Then assuming you have zero savings going into this, not even a penny, you can live on the BA pocket money and throw the rest onto that.

Have a look at the modular threads to see how people get on as that’s the most similar route. Usually integrated students tend to be there because mummy and daddy found a couple of hundred grand down the back of the sofa so the cost of living through the course is a mere rounding error.
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Anyone's application still unchanged in the BA portal, after todays updates?
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Old 20th May 2024, 19:03
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Anyone's application still unchanged in the BA portal, after todays updates?
Sadly yes, I am not feeling too confident about the next stage I must admit but ploughing my energy into working out a way to do modular instead!
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Old 20th May 2024, 19:11
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Sadly yes, I am not feeling too confident about the next stage I must admit but ploughing my energy into working out a way to do modular instead!
well it’s not over till it’s over…they seem to be working through a process..no emails have been sent yet..and as you know becoming a pilot one needs to be persistent and endure challenges !
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Sadly yes, I am not feeling too confident about the next stage I must admit but ploughing my energy into working out a way to do modular instead!
+1 on the modular route…no change for me either and thinking I might need to start modular if I want to get started at all on this journey!

As others have said it’s not over til the emails are sent!
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