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Still no change for me - feeling like this is the end of the road. Made some small mistakes in the information of the PA so maybe that was why. Who knows. Best of luck all of you, this has spurred me on to book a PPL lesson at least!
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I've heard that 800 number before too..
Browsing through this thread making myself go crazy, I believe there's three categories:
EARLY YES - Changed on the BA Careers Portal (13 people),
EARLY NO - Received a rejection email (5 people)
UNDERGOING ALLOCATION or AWAITING BULK REJECTION - No change yet (43 people),
Going by last years numbers from the Q&A sessions, 24000 applicants, 8000 passed screening. Reduce those successful by 10% as the tests were distinctively harder, but not by a huge degree to give us 7200 (Top 30% through).
Working back from the timeframes I'm going to assume there are 20 HR staff/project pilots involved on the programme.
(7200 CVs to screen with roughly 45 seconds each, allocating 1 hour a day for the pilots to read through them outside of flying and 4 to 5 days to hear back from Checking to PA).
Still assuming the 20 staff with 1 hour a day now over two weeks and allocating 6 minutes to each PA to allow for loading times/decision, would give a target of 2800 progressing from CV/Motivation sift through to PA (39% through).
800 slots available from the 2800 (29%).. the question is how many of those successful 800 are on this board.
Then from there FTE Jerez, Stage 1 running sessions of 15 each, assuming twice a day over 2 weeks would give 300 spaces, take the top 25% giving 75 for Stage 2
Leaving Skyborne 500 for their Stage 1, take the top 25% performing to give 125 for Stage 2 Waterside Interview.
FTE and Skyborne combined Total 200.
Top 75% are taken through for the final assessment giving BA 150 for the Final Stage interview, run over 3 weeks, 10 in each group per day.
Top two thirds are the final 100.
That's my theory if I was running it...
But so far we've had people told they've been put through to the next stage, but sorry you're actually not. Rejected, wait a minute we've miscalculated can you do your tests again. People who've made it to the final stage last but paper sifted before the PA. So I think it might just be one big tombola and your name gets pulled out...
Browsing through this thread making myself go crazy, I believe there's three categories:
EARLY YES - Changed on the BA Careers Portal (13 people),
EARLY NO - Received a rejection email (5 people)
UNDERGOING ALLOCATION or AWAITING BULK REJECTION - No change yet (43 people),
Going by last years numbers from the Q&A sessions, 24000 applicants, 8000 passed screening. Reduce those successful by 10% as the tests were distinctively harder, but not by a huge degree to give us 7200 (Top 30% through).
Working back from the timeframes I'm going to assume there are 20 HR staff/project pilots involved on the programme.
(7200 CVs to screen with roughly 45 seconds each, allocating 1 hour a day for the pilots to read through them outside of flying and 4 to 5 days to hear back from Checking to PA).
Still assuming the 20 staff with 1 hour a day now over two weeks and allocating 6 minutes to each PA to allow for loading times/decision, would give a target of 2800 progressing from CV/Motivation sift through to PA (39% through).
800 slots available from the 2800 (29%).. the question is how many of those successful 800 are on this board.
Then from there FTE Jerez, Stage 1 running sessions of 15 each, assuming twice a day over 2 weeks would give 300 spaces, take the top 25% giving 75 for Stage 2
Leaving Skyborne 500 for their Stage 1, take the top 25% performing to give 125 for Stage 2 Waterside Interview.
FTE and Skyborne combined Total 200.
Top 75% are taken through for the final assessment giving BA 150 for the Final Stage interview, run over 3 weeks, 10 in each group per day.
Top two thirds are the final 100.
That's my theory if I was running it...
But so far we've had people told they've been put through to the next stage, but sorry you're actually not. Rejected, wait a minute we've miscalculated can you do your tests again. People who've made it to the final stage last but paper sifted before the PA. So I think it might just be one big tombola and your name gets pulled out...
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I've heard that 800 number before too..
Browsing through this thread making myself go crazy, I believe there's three categories:
EARLY YES - Changed on the BA Careers Portal (13 people),
EARLY NO - Received a rejection email (5 people)
UNDERGOING ALLOCATION or AWAITING BULK REJECTION - No change yet (43 people),
Going by last years numbers from the Q&A sessions, 24000 applicants, 8000 passed screening. Reduce those successful by 10% as the tests were distinctively harder, but not by a huge degree to give us 7200 (Top 30% through).
Working back from the timeframes I'm going to assume there are 20 HR staff/project pilots involved on the programme.
(7200 CVs to screen with roughly 45 seconds each, allocating 1 hour a day for the pilots to read through them outside of flying and 4 to 5 days to hear back from Checking to PA).
Still assuming the 20 staff with 1 hour a day now over two weeks and allocating 6 minutes to each PA to allow for loading times/decision, would give a target of 2800 progressing from CV/Motivation sift through to PA (39% through).
800 slots available from the 2800 (29%).. the question is how many of those successful 800 are on this board.
Then from there FTE Jerez, Stage 1 running sessions of 15 each, assuming twice a day over 2 weeks would give 300 spaces, take the top 25% giving 75 for Stage 2
Leaving Skyborne 500 for their Stage 1, take the top 25% performing to give 125 for Stage 2 Waterside Interview.
FTE and Skyborne combined Total 200.
Top 75% are taken through for the final assessment giving BA 150 for the Final Stage interview, run over 3 weeks, 10 in each group per day.
Top two thirds are the final 100.
That's my theory if I was running it...
But so far we've had people told they've been put through to the next stage, but sorry you're actually not. Rejected, wait a minute we've miscalculated can you do your tests again. People who've made it to the final stage last but paper sifted before the PA. So I think it might just be one big tombola and your name gets pulled out...
Browsing through this thread making myself go crazy, I believe there's three categories:
EARLY YES - Changed on the BA Careers Portal (13 people),
EARLY NO - Received a rejection email (5 people)
UNDERGOING ALLOCATION or AWAITING BULK REJECTION - No change yet (43 people),
Going by last years numbers from the Q&A sessions, 24000 applicants, 8000 passed screening. Reduce those successful by 10% as the tests were distinctively harder, but not by a huge degree to give us 7200 (Top 30% through).
Working back from the timeframes I'm going to assume there are 20 HR staff/project pilots involved on the programme.
(7200 CVs to screen with roughly 45 seconds each, allocating 1 hour a day for the pilots to read through them outside of flying and 4 to 5 days to hear back from Checking to PA).
Still assuming the 20 staff with 1 hour a day now over two weeks and allocating 6 minutes to each PA to allow for loading times/decision, would give a target of 2800 progressing from CV/Motivation sift through to PA (39% through).
800 slots available from the 2800 (29%).. the question is how many of those successful 800 are on this board.
Then from there FTE Jerez, Stage 1 running sessions of 15 each, assuming twice a day over 2 weeks would give 300 spaces, take the top 25% giving 75 for Stage 2
Leaving Skyborne 500 for their Stage 1, take the top 25% performing to give 125 for Stage 2 Waterside Interview.
FTE and Skyborne combined Total 200.
Top 75% are taken through for the final assessment giving BA 150 for the Final Stage interview, run over 3 weeks, 10 in each group per day.
Top two thirds are the final 100.
That's my theory if I was running it...
But so far we've had people told they've been put through to the next stage, but sorry you're actually not. Rejected, wait a minute we've miscalculated can you do your tests again. People who've made it to the final stage last but paper sifted before the PA. So I think it might just be one big tombola and your name gets pulled out...
Remember, not everyone who applied is on this thread, and not everyone who is on this thread has said whether they've had their status changed, or not.
But still, an interesting approach to how the short-listing could work, and with what resources they have.
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Hi All,
Interesting to see some others are in the same boat as me to say the least - No Change to their application. I've been following this thread religiously for quite some time but haven't posted. I mean ultimately, who wants to provide info to their competition haha. This process has taken it's toll on the mental health, thats for sure.
I felt as if I did ok with the PA, although I did find that the time bar (which required a small scroll down on my laptop) messed with me a bit. It timed out my PA and auto sent my recording...I wasn't 100% happy with it....Never mind
I would say I have a fairly strong aviation related CV; aircraft maintenance engineer, Private Pilot 100+hrs or so. (Unsure how they see holding a licence. In some cases holding a PPL for flight schools is actually worse than having no hours at all when entering an integrated course. I've been told "habits are hard to iron out" (Easyjet MPL Phase 2 Instructor)
Not that I want to add to the percentage and quantity guessing as I know it's not much help. Lets just say, its a highly sought after sponsorship. If we're going by last years figures which were confirmed by Skyborne, 24,000 Applications.
A friend of mine actually progressed to the final final stage. There were 200 people left for 60 spots. He just dibbed out. He also had a PPL 70-80 hrs or so I believe.
It would be interesting to know how the "Equality and Diversity" section is viewed on the initial application. I mean if it was truly "Equality and Diversity" they shouldn't ask at all. Why on earth would they need to know sexuality for example. Asking these sorts of questions actually means its the complete opposite surely? There should just be a tick box "These are the requirements for the course, can you comply with this? Away from home? Support yourself financially..daily spending etc? If so, you tick the box. If you know you cant, don't tick the box. I don't know, maybe i'm wrong. I remember them asking about parental situation. Being a newly appointed Dad and answering "Primary Care Giver", I cant imagine that does many favours..... thinking about it a little logically, what with the amount of studying, distractions etc they probably see it as a risk factor.
Anyway, my personal opinion is that those who have had their status changed are through. Its probably so they can filter and format their spreadsheets easily. Those that haven't simply, haven't made it. Ie - Myself. Ultimately though, we don't really know do we. I'm not sure they'll be setting aside buckets. Realistically, how many of the 60 wont pass their medical? I would hope, not many.
Good chat following the thread though. Those that find out they're through, well done, keep pushing. Those that haven't (potentially myself), also keep pushing. Your on this thread for a reason. It means something to you. The fact you've gone off and looked into this and are interested in improving your chances says it all. Being unsuccessful doesn't mean that we cant be pilots. It just means it will take a little longer, thats all. Work smartly, earn money, pay for the training. Start a little business. It's taken me since 2013 (my first trail flight) to build my hours. I'm not from a wealthy family, in fact i'm from a family that just makes ends meet...Council house etc. Not that I live at home and in the UK with them now. (Moved to Australia to work as an Aircraft Maintenance Engineer, in the hope of earning more money to fund my training. 2.5x the amount I was earning back in the UK....food for thought if there's any AME's on here. Maybe i'm getting abit too deep. My point is, this isn't the end of the road. After all, the journey is just as exciting as the destination. I have a friend (Easyjet MPL Pilot, paid £140,000)............he says he feels like he cheated......Interesting.
Sorry for the waffle chat anyway. Wishing everyone the best
Good Luck
Interesting to see some others are in the same boat as me to say the least - No Change to their application. I've been following this thread religiously for quite some time but haven't posted. I mean ultimately, who wants to provide info to their competition haha. This process has taken it's toll on the mental health, thats for sure.
I felt as if I did ok with the PA, although I did find that the time bar (which required a small scroll down on my laptop) messed with me a bit. It timed out my PA and auto sent my recording...I wasn't 100% happy with it....Never mind
I would say I have a fairly strong aviation related CV; aircraft maintenance engineer, Private Pilot 100+hrs or so. (Unsure how they see holding a licence. In some cases holding a PPL for flight schools is actually worse than having no hours at all when entering an integrated course. I've been told "habits are hard to iron out" (Easyjet MPL Phase 2 Instructor)
Not that I want to add to the percentage and quantity guessing as I know it's not much help. Lets just say, its a highly sought after sponsorship. If we're going by last years figures which were confirmed by Skyborne, 24,000 Applications.
A friend of mine actually progressed to the final final stage. There were 200 people left for 60 spots. He just dibbed out. He also had a PPL 70-80 hrs or so I believe.
It would be interesting to know how the "Equality and Diversity" section is viewed on the initial application. I mean if it was truly "Equality and Diversity" they shouldn't ask at all. Why on earth would they need to know sexuality for example. Asking these sorts of questions actually means its the complete opposite surely? There should just be a tick box "These are the requirements for the course, can you comply with this? Away from home? Support yourself financially..daily spending etc? If so, you tick the box. If you know you cant, don't tick the box. I don't know, maybe i'm wrong. I remember them asking about parental situation. Being a newly appointed Dad and answering "Primary Care Giver", I cant imagine that does many favours..... thinking about it a little logically, what with the amount of studying, distractions etc they probably see it as a risk factor.
Anyway, my personal opinion is that those who have had their status changed are through. Its probably so they can filter and format their spreadsheets easily. Those that haven't simply, haven't made it. Ie - Myself. Ultimately though, we don't really know do we. I'm not sure they'll be setting aside buckets. Realistically, how many of the 60 wont pass their medical? I would hope, not many.
Good chat following the thread though. Those that find out they're through, well done, keep pushing. Those that haven't (potentially myself), also keep pushing. Your on this thread for a reason. It means something to you. The fact you've gone off and looked into this and are interested in improving your chances says it all. Being unsuccessful doesn't mean that we cant be pilots. It just means it will take a little longer, thats all. Work smartly, earn money, pay for the training. Start a little business. It's taken me since 2013 (my first trail flight) to build my hours. I'm not from a wealthy family, in fact i'm from a family that just makes ends meet...Council house etc. Not that I live at home and in the UK with them now. (Moved to Australia to work as an Aircraft Maintenance Engineer, in the hope of earning more money to fund my training. 2.5x the amount I was earning back in the UK....food for thought if there's any AME's on here. Maybe i'm getting abit too deep. My point is, this isn't the end of the road. After all, the journey is just as exciting as the destination. I have a friend (Easyjet MPL Pilot, paid £140,000)............he says he feels like he cheated......Interesting.
Sorry for the waffle chat anyway. Wishing everyone the best
Good Luck Abit about myself; Im currently studying Engineering at a top 3 UK university after achieving 4 A stars in Maths, Further Maths, Physics and Chemistry so I'm not convinced that the maths was an issue but probably more so my lack of aviation based experience. Obviously we won't know till next week but im currently in the peak of exam season so having this at the back of my head has been quite annoying, especially not having been updated to my flight school of choice..
I really appreciate you sharing your background and experience as I've been tempted to switch to aeronatical engineering if this doesnt work out which i assume might be quite similar to aircraft maintaince !
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Hi All,
Interesting to see some others are in the same boat as me to say the least - No Change to their application. I've been following this thread religiously for quite some time but haven't posted. I mean ultimately, who wants to provide info to their competition haha. This process has taken it's toll on the mental health, thats for sure.
I felt as if I did ok with the PA, although I did find that the time bar (which required a small scroll down on my laptop) messed with me a bit. It timed out my PA and auto sent my recording...I wasn't 100% happy with it....Never mind
I would say I have a fairly strong aviation related CV; aircraft maintenance engineer, Private Pilot 100+hrs or so. (Unsure how they see holding a licence. In some cases holding a PPL for flight schools is actually worse than having no hours at all when entering an integrated course. I've been told "habits are hard to iron out" (Easyjet MPL Phase 2 Instructor)
Not that I want to add to the percentage and quantity guessing as I know it's not much help. Lets just say, its a highly sought after sponsorship. If we're going by last years figures which were confirmed by Skyborne, 24,000 Applications.
A friend of mine actually progressed to the final final stage. There were 200 people left for 60 spots. He just dibbed out. He also had a PPL 70-80 hrs or so I believe.
It would be interesting to know how the "Equality and Diversity" section is viewed on the initial application. I mean if it was truly "Equality and Diversity" they shouldn't ask at all. Why on earth would they need to know sexuality for example. Asking these sorts of questions actually means its the complete opposite surely? There should just be a tick box "These are the requirements for the course, can you comply with this? Away from home? Support yourself financially..daily spending etc? If so, you tick the box. If you know you cant, don't tick the box. I don't know, maybe i'm wrong. I remember them asking about parental situation. Being a newly appointed Dad and answering "Primary Care Giver", I cant imagine that does many favours..... thinking about it a little logically, what with the amount of studying, distractions etc they probably see it as a risk factor.
Anyway, my personal opinion is that those who have had their status changed are through. Its probably so they can filter and format their spreadsheets easily. Those that haven't simply, haven't made it. Ie - Myself. Ultimately though, we don't really know do we. I'm not sure they'll be setting aside buckets. Realistically, how many of the 60 wont pass their medical? I would hope, not many.
Good chat following the thread though. Those that find out they're through, well done, keep pushing. Those that haven't (potentially myself), also keep pushing. Your on this thread for a reason. It means something to you. The fact you've gone off and looked into this and are interested in improving your chances says it all. Being unsuccessful doesn't mean that we cant be pilots. It just means it will take a little longer, thats all. Work smartly, earn money, pay for the training. Start a little business. It's taken me since 2013 (my first trail flight) to build my hours. I'm not from a wealthy family, in fact i'm from a family that just makes ends meet...Council house etc. Not that I live at home and in the UK with them now. (Moved to Australia to work as an Aircraft Maintenance Engineer, in the hope of earning more money to fund my training. 2.5x the amount I was earning back in the UK....food for thought if there's any AME's on here. Maybe i'm getting abit too deep. My point is, this isn't the end of the road. After all, the journey is just as exciting as the destination. I have a friend (Easyjet MPL Pilot, paid £140,000)............he says he feels like he cheated......Interesting.
Sorry for the waffle chat anyway. Wishing everyone the best Good Luck
Interesting to see some others are in the same boat as me to say the least - No Change to their application. I've been following this thread religiously for quite some time but haven't posted. I mean ultimately, who wants to provide info to their competition haha. This process has taken it's toll on the mental health, thats for sure.
I felt as if I did ok with the PA, although I did find that the time bar (which required a small scroll down on my laptop) messed with me a bit. It timed out my PA and auto sent my recording...I wasn't 100% happy with it....Never mind
I would say I have a fairly strong aviation related CV; aircraft maintenance engineer, Private Pilot 100+hrs or so. (Unsure how they see holding a licence. In some cases holding a PPL for flight schools is actually worse than having no hours at all when entering an integrated course. I've been told "habits are hard to iron out" (Easyjet MPL Phase 2 Instructor)
Not that I want to add to the percentage and quantity guessing as I know it's not much help. Lets just say, its a highly sought after sponsorship. If we're going by last years figures which were confirmed by Skyborne, 24,000 Applications.
A friend of mine actually progressed to the final final stage. There were 200 people left for 60 spots. He just dibbed out. He also had a PPL 70-80 hrs or so I believe.
It would be interesting to know how the "Equality and Diversity" section is viewed on the initial application. I mean if it was truly "Equality and Diversity" they shouldn't ask at all. Why on earth would they need to know sexuality for example. Asking these sorts of questions actually means its the complete opposite surely? There should just be a tick box "These are the requirements for the course, can you comply with this? Away from home? Support yourself financially..daily spending etc? If so, you tick the box. If you know you cant, don't tick the box. I don't know, maybe i'm wrong. I remember them asking about parental situation. Being a newly appointed Dad and answering "Primary Care Giver", I cant imagine that does many favours..... thinking about it a little logically, what with the amount of studying, distractions etc they probably see it as a risk factor.
Anyway, my personal opinion is that those who have had their status changed are through. Its probably so they can filter and format their spreadsheets easily. Those that haven't simply, haven't made it. Ie - Myself. Ultimately though, we don't really know do we. I'm not sure they'll be setting aside buckets. Realistically, how many of the 60 wont pass their medical? I would hope, not many.
Good chat following the thread though. Those that find out they're through, well done, keep pushing. Those that haven't (potentially myself), also keep pushing. Your on this thread for a reason. It means something to you. The fact you've gone off and looked into this and are interested in improving your chances says it all. Being unsuccessful doesn't mean that we cant be pilots. It just means it will take a little longer, thats all. Work smartly, earn money, pay for the training. Start a little business. It's taken me since 2013 (my first trail flight) to build my hours. I'm not from a wealthy family, in fact i'm from a family that just makes ends meet...Council house etc. Not that I live at home and in the UK with them now. (Moved to Australia to work as an Aircraft Maintenance Engineer, in the hope of earning more money to fund my training. 2.5x the amount I was earning back in the UK....food for thought if there's any AME's on here. Maybe i'm getting abit too deep. My point is, this isn't the end of the road. After all, the journey is just as exciting as the destination. I have a friend (Easyjet MPL Pilot, paid £140,000)............he says he feels like he cheated......Interesting.
Sorry for the waffle chat anyway. Wishing everyone the best
Good Luck This process is removing the financial barrier, with the focus on aptitude and ability to fit into a flight school training programme.
However, they will ask at interview about various personal circumstances and I’d imagine if you did have 3 kids under 5 for example, they would quite rightly ask how you do intend to balance that over the course of 18 months, with much of it away from home.
Re: the flight school info in the jobs portal, it seems to indicate that the ones that have changed may be through to the next round but I would fully expect this not to be the case too!
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The E&D section is for internal stats, it isn’t looked at by recruiting staff. Over say a period of a year or so they can then see what % of staff are x y or z. I wouldn’t think too much into that bit.
This process is removing the financial barrier, with the focus on aptitude and ability to fit into a flight school training programme.
However, they will ask at interview about various personal circumstances and I’d imagine if you did have 3 kids under 5 for example, they would quite rightly ask how you do intend to balance that over the course of 18 months, with much of it away from home.
Re: the flight school info in the jobs portal, it seems to indicate that the ones that have changed may be through to the next round but I would fully expect this not to be the case too!
This process is removing the financial barrier, with the focus on aptitude and ability to fit into a flight school training programme.
However, they will ask at interview about various personal circumstances and I’d imagine if you did have 3 kids under 5 for example, they would quite rightly ask how you do intend to balance that over the course of 18 months, with much of it away from home.
Re: the flight school info in the jobs portal, it seems to indicate that the ones that have changed may be through to the next round but I would fully expect this not to be the case too!
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What makes you think that those who have had the flight school info added not to get through? Do you think those that haven't had theirs changed to get through? Or are you saying it doesn't mean anything? Do you have any further insights or intel, or just an alternative guess?
However, I would prefer mine to change to a named flight school than to not change at all.
It *may* indicate through to the next round but it may not. Either way it doesn’t matter and the outcome is next week when an email comes in saying yes or no. No control over anything and no point in second guessing realistically, control the controllables, trust the process and what will be will be.
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Of those who saw the flight school added to their application, did anyone state that they didn’t wish to be considered for BA CityFlier? Wondering if this would have been factored in when deciding which applications are moving forward as nothing has been added to mine yet.
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Of those who saw the flight school added to their application, did anyone state that they didn’t wish to be considered for BA CityFlier? Wondering if this would have been factored in when deciding which applications are moving forward as nothing has been added to mine yet.
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Exactly that. No idea, speculation as much as anyone else.
However, I would prefer mine to change to a named flight school than to not change at all.
It *may* indicate through to the next round but it may not. Either way it doesn’t matter and the outcome is next week when an email comes in saying yes or no. No control over anything and no point in second guessing realistically, control the controllables, trust the process and what will be will be.
However, I would prefer mine to change to a named flight school than to not change at all.
It *may* indicate through to the next round but it may not. Either way it doesn’t matter and the outcome is next week when an email comes in saying yes or no. No control over anything and no point in second guessing realistically, control the controllables, trust the process and what will be will be.
For me it's curiosity more than anything and honestly, I hope for the best of course, but easy going if it's a no as I've done what I can and we can't control the uncontrollable (BA).
Just checking in case you had any inside info or were in the same boat as us
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Of those who saw the flight school added to their application, did anyone state that they didn’t wish to be considered for BA CityFlier? Wondering if this would have been factored in when deciding which applications are moving forward as nothing has been added to mine yet.
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It feels like ages ago since I completed the application but did we have an option to select all bases?? I chose a flight school but can't remember about bases. I also accepted CityFlyer...why not, like you say, could provide more chances!?
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I thought there was an option to deselect or select City Flyer? Maybe I'm wrong but I'm sure someone else on this thread they didn't want to work and London City Airport
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I’m part of the group who didn’t get any change to the title last week, but I’ve since had an update this morning changing it to Skyborne - so they must still be working through them.
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