Can a non-JAR license holder complete MCC certification?

[imnotwhoyouthinkiam]

Hi, I have a Canadian CPL/IR/ME, and was wondering if it would be possible for me to get MCC certification in Europe.

Thanks.

[Trolle]

I have been told both yes and no.

Yes answers were defended with that the requirement is an ICAO IR.

Just call the school and ask. If they don't know you could interpret that to mean they aren't up to speed on the regulations. That means go somewhere else.

[imnotwhoyouthinkiam]

thanks, I called multiflight in leeds and they said it was possible. I guess I'll take their word for it and head there.

[BillieBob]

This is an interesting question and one without a single answer as different JAA Member States interpret the requirements in different ways. There are no pre-requisites for entry to the MCC course detailed in JAR-FCL 1. There is a statement that the course is 'intended' for PPL/IR and CPL/IR holders that the UK CAA, at least, has interpreted as setting a pre-requisite. They have not then applied the provisions of JAR-FCL 1.005(a)(2), which clearly states that reference to any licence or rating implies a JAA licence or rating unless stated otherwise, and have (incorrectly) accepted a valid ICAO CPL/IR as meeting their self-imposed requirement. This is typical of the cack-handed and inconsistent way that the UK has implemented JAR-FCL 1 over the years (it is still on Amendment 5 when Amendment 7 was published almost 5 years ago). If Multiflight say you can do it then go ahead - once you have the Course Completion Certificate in hand there is nothing the CAA can do about it except, perhaps, to suspend the FTO's approval but that won't happen and, in any case, can't affect the validity of an already issued certificate.

Come April 2012, the matter will become clearer, if not better, as there are no pre-requisites whatever in Part-FCL for entry to the MCC course, not even a similar statement of intent. This means that no 'competent authority' will be able to misinterpret the requirements as the UK has done but that anyone, irrespective of qualifications and experience, will be able to join an MCC course.

[imnotwhoyouthinkiam]

I simply need a certificate. I don't frankly care if JAR recognize it or not. I need this to join an airline in the Middle East, and so long as I can slap a genuine MCC certificate on their desk I'm not the least bit bothered about the bureaucracy. Multiflight appear to be a reputable training center, does anyone have anything to say about them one way or the other? Like I said, this is more a means to an end than anything else. I have actually already done 15 hours MultiCrew time as part of my certification for Frozen ATPL in Canada, unfortunately they don't issue MCC certificates and the airline is insisting I have one.