OAT Waypoint Programme
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Continue to make inaccurate opinions and hoist your flag of self importance, but remember BA will not look at your CV when you have completed your course.... in BA's view you are no different to any other modular student from any other school.
Mind you that could change if a certain recruitment manager moves on from his position. BA did employ a modular student from Oxford in 2001 but since the new chap has been in charge the doors have closed despite same instruction, aircraft, facilities and training reports as integrated.
Mind you that could change if a certain recruitment manager moves on from his position. BA did employ a modular student from Oxford in 2001 but since the new chap has been in charge the doors have closed despite same instruction, aircraft, facilities and training reports as integrated.
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Don't know if this has been mentioned but the guy at the beginning said he was doing Bristol distance learning, you can't be on the modular waypoint programme unless you do distance learning or the residential ground school through Oxford. Am on the Waypoint programme atm.
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Erm, It's a good course, basically you have the option of doing the CPL in Arizona or doing the CPL in the UK. It's cheaper in the US than the UK and at Oxford they just have all senecas and only like 2 warriors so I decided to stick with Arizona.
Not really what I expected from a CPL/ME to be honest, I expected to be transitting busy airspace, complex navs etc etc which is basically how I prepared for the CPL with my hour building.
However being out here it seems I am not even going to request a single air traffic service, the navs are in my opinion too simple, they are sometimes a bit difficult because they give you something small to find, but basically the winds are usually so calm that the drift is hardly noticable and all you ever do is speak on a practice area frequency, then call up tower when joining back or unicom wherever you are landing.
I've just moved from the Warrior onto the Seneca (Oxford have like 40 warriors but only 8 Senecas) and these things atm seem to go tech every 5minutes yesterday all 8 were tech.
OAT or OAA as they are now called really want to rush you through it so you are pretty flat out the whole time.
The reason I stuck with Oxford after groundschool was purely because at a Ryanair seminar I attended speaking to the recruitment manager there he said that if he sees Oxford on your CV its an instant tick for him (in those words) and if this is the case then OAA is worth the money but apart from that you don't get any kind of better training or anything.
Airlines also say that if you are a modular student they prefer you to be 'one stop' basically meaning try and keep your training down to as few schools as possible, like if you did your CPL at one school, then your IR at another then the MCC at another etc etc. Basically so they only have to call up one person to ask them about you instead of like 4 different ones.
But in essence you are paying double the amount you'd pay for somewhere else for the same quality of training. It's like buying a plain white shirt, then buying a plain white shirt that came from the same sweat shop but has Ralph Lauren sewn onto it. Both the same except one costs alot more lol. :P
Not really what I expected from a CPL/ME to be honest, I expected to be transitting busy airspace, complex navs etc etc which is basically how I prepared for the CPL with my hour building.
However being out here it seems I am not even going to request a single air traffic service, the navs are in my opinion too simple, they are sometimes a bit difficult because they give you something small to find, but basically the winds are usually so calm that the drift is hardly noticable and all you ever do is speak on a practice area frequency, then call up tower when joining back or unicom wherever you are landing.
I've just moved from the Warrior onto the Seneca (Oxford have like 40 warriors but only 8 Senecas) and these things atm seem to go tech every 5minutes yesterday all 8 were tech.
OAT or OAA as they are now called really want to rush you through it so you are pretty flat out the whole time.
The reason I stuck with Oxford after groundschool was purely because at a Ryanair seminar I attended speaking to the recruitment manager there he said that if he sees Oxford on your CV its an instant tick for him (in those words) and if this is the case then OAA is worth the money but apart from that you don't get any kind of better training or anything.
Airlines also say that if you are a modular student they prefer you to be 'one stop' basically meaning try and keep your training down to as few schools as possible, like if you did your CPL at one school, then your IR at another then the MCC at another etc etc. Basically so they only have to call up one person to ask them about you instead of like 4 different ones.
But in essence you are paying double the amount you'd pay for somewhere else for the same quality of training. It's like buying a plain white shirt, then buying a plain white shirt that came from the same sweat shop but has Ralph Lauren sewn onto it. Both the same except one costs alot more lol. :P
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Oh and just to add, the price for the Waypoint has risen to over 30k now for CPL/IR and MCC and probably what they might leave out is that if you fail to do the training in the allotted time you have to pay over 400 quid per hour to rent a seneca so you really have to get your head down, also I'm not sure what other FTO's give you in their package but you don't get any p1 time at all with Oxford its all P/UT so for myself I am going to have to do additional hour building and my 300nm cross country to get to the 100 p1 (I have 70 now) before I can get my licenses issued.
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Hey there,
I currently have an Icao PPL.
So at the end do you guys think it is worth to complete the Waypoint with Oxford or is it a better decision to do these with a smaller FTO such as PAT,Bonus or PFT?
Considering costs and employment opportunities...
Thanks alot
I currently have an Icao PPL.
So at the end do you guys think it is worth to complete the Waypoint with Oxford or is it a better decision to do these with a smaller FTO such as PAT,Bonus or PFT?
Considering costs and employment opportunities...
Thanks alot
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The question which needs to be asked here is how many modular students have OAA recommended to airlines in the past 6 months? If it is anything less than 50% I would suggest there is no benefit in choosing OAA over any other reputable flight school. Save your money, go somewhere small and maybe have enough money left over for a FI course to keep you flying until things pick up again. I agree with previous posters: The groundschool and the MCC/JOC are top notch. The stuff in between is average mainly due to there being little spare capacity to absorb normal problems (tech a/c, bad wx etc) in the flying schedule.
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Speed resriction's post is SPOT on, and I mean, very accurate. The instruction at OAA is second to none, but for all I know it's probably near that standard everywhere else too. I am at OAA, it's all fine and dandy, but paying over £30k to be told there are no jobs is alot harder a pill to swallow than only having spent £20k (or even less). Oxford students, modular and int have been getting jobs with good success prior to the slow down, I suspect when things begin to pick up again it may be that one stop mod and int students are back at the top of the pile. (I hope)
