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The only fast track I know is the Direct CPL course without going through PPL subjects and flight test.
Another phase is the flight training - the more money you have the more hours you can gain quickly- that's fast track.
pm me if you need more info.
D6
Another phase is the flight training - the more money you have the more hours you can gain quickly- that's fast track.
pm me if you need more info.
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Ballistic,
Just a quick question.
Your profile says your from UK.
Are you looking for a UK JAA licence or do you have the right to work in Australia and are therefore looking for a CASA licence?
If you want a JAA licence only place in Australia is:
http://www.waaviationcollege.com.au/
also do CASA courses.
Just a quick question.
Your profile says your from UK.
Are you looking for a UK JAA licence or do you have the right to work in Australia and are therefore looking for a CASA licence?
If you want a JAA licence only place in Australia is:
http://www.waaviationcollege.com.au/
also do CASA courses.
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Guys,
Here is the website I'm speaking about: http://www.ftpilottraining.com/
Yes, I'm living in the UK. I was pondering over the idea of getting a CASA licence and setteling out there given that it makes more financial sense compared to £60K that they're asking for at flight schools here.
I'm not sure what the make-up of the industry is like out in Australia. I spoke to a Pilot who works for Qantas whop tells me that there are not enough pilots out there at the moment so would be easier to get residence on the basis of a skilled migrant. Not sure what you guys think.
Here is the website I'm speaking about: http://www.ftpilottraining.com/
Yes, I'm living in the UK. I was pondering over the idea of getting a CASA licence and setteling out there given that it makes more financial sense compared to £60K that they're asking for at flight schools here.
I'm not sure what the make-up of the industry is like out in Australia. I spoke to a Pilot who works for Qantas whop tells me that there are not enough pilots out there at the moment so would be easier to get residence on the basis of a skilled migrant. Not sure what you guys think.
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Ballistic, there's no way you will get skilled migration as a pilot, it's not on the list and as 20driver says, Oz is swimming in pilots building hours as instructors, crop-dusters, parachute-droppers etc etc etc. Much much tougher place to get an airline job than Europe.
I'm not sure where your Qantas friend gets his idea of pilot shortages from, but I believe it's a long way from the truth, certainly in terms of low-houred FOs.
I'm not sure where your Qantas friend gets his idea of pilot shortages from, but I believe it's a long way from the truth, certainly in terms of low-houred FOs.
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Hmmm good link to WA Aviation College whiskey - looks like a good place and worth a gander by the look of the website.
Anyone trained there and recommend it (or not)?
Anyone trained there and recommend it (or not)?
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You wish to leave the most active, voracious market for pilots in the Western world where it is common for pilots to be employed on jets with 200 hours, for one of the most closed, inward-looking, and weak markets, where a pilot needs several thousand hours before qualifying for jet employment? That's an interesting thesis! Perhaps you could explain your thinking?
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I agree.... Scroggs has a very good point. You guys in Eu have more chance of getting jet jobs at 200 hours. You'd be lucky to get a turbo prop job at 1500 hours here in Oz. I know one who has 3000 hrs and still couldn't get the job with a small regional operator.
Another thing, immigration has taken out pilots on the skills migration list so I wouldn't try that avenue.
However, training is much cheaper here compared to UK. Where in the world can you get multi engine training from $260/hr. I think that might be an equivalent of 104 pounds /hr if you can get a student or working holiday visa then convert your qualifications to JAA.
Good luck
D6
Another thing, immigration has taken out pilots on the skills migration list so I wouldn't try that avenue.
However, training is much cheaper here compared to UK. Where in the world can you get multi engine training from $260/hr. I think that might be an equivalent of 104 pounds /hr if you can get a student or working holiday visa then convert your qualifications to JAA.
Good luck
D6
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Atpl at Basair or WAAC?
Hi.I just finished college but have decided that computers aint for me.Ive always wanted to be a pilot so ive decided to train for my ATPl and have been looking around at various flight schools abroad and have come across Basair in Sydney and Western Australian Aviation College.I was wondering if anyone has any experience with either of these?Basair seems to be "reasonably" priced at AUSD$53,260 with WAAC'c course being AUSD$101,571 but WAAC's course is a JAA integrated course.Does anyone know if the basair course would require a conversion course when I get back to Ireland and what kind of time span and cost such a course takes? I was looking at PTC aswell but theyre €15,000 more expensive than WAAC.Plus from reading a few other threads Im a bit weary about PTC!?Also, could someone tell me what is meant by the "frozen" in an ATPL? All the above courses result in the issueing of a frozen ATPL.How will this affect me when I go looking for a job?
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Just in case you are still interested....
There are a few courses available that do live up to the cheaper reputation. I'm currently doing a degree course with Swinburne University that includes CPL practical and APTL theory training with another UK pilot. It is comparitively cheap. We train with General Flying Services and there are avenues to progress to the airlines with some hard work. General Flying Services does train Qantas Cadet pilots and China Airlines pilots. After degree or diploma training a lot of them go onto instructor training with the GFS company then go onto the respective airlines relatively quickly. Not a bad way to go... get some extra qualifications as well.
There are a few courses available that do live up to the cheaper reputation. I'm currently doing a degree course with Swinburne University that includes CPL practical and APTL theory training with another UK pilot. It is comparitively cheap. We train with General Flying Services and there are avenues to progress to the airlines with some hard work. General Flying Services does train Qantas Cadet pilots and China Airlines pilots. After degree or diploma training a lot of them go onto instructor training with the GFS company then go onto the respective airlines relatively quickly. Not a bad way to go... get some extra qualifications as well.
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insomniac: info about the different licences is around this forum, ATPL / 'frozen' ATPL are discussed in http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...hreadid=134076
As far as I know WAAC are the only training organisation to actually train for the JAA licences, so yes you would have to convert your Basair licence. I'm not sure of the details on converting the Aussie licence to JAA though.
As far as I know WAAC are the only training organisation to actually train for the JAA licences, so yes you would have to convert your Basair licence. I'm not sure of the details on converting the Aussie licence to JAA though.
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Insomniac 32,
Yes you would have to convert your Aussie Licence to a JAA one.
Complete the Ground school.
Pass the 14 exams
CPL Flying and Test
Instrument Rating Flying (a Minimum of 15 hours) and Test
A MCC Course.
Expect it would take 6 to 8 months to convert anddoubt you'd save money.
If you want a JAA licence probably better to get it in the first place.
Yes you would have to convert your Aussie Licence to a JAA one.
Complete the Ground school.
Pass the 14 exams
CPL Flying and Test
Instrument Rating Flying (a Minimum of 15 hours) and Test
A MCC Course.
Expect it would take 6 to 8 months to convert anddoubt you'd save money.
If you want a JAA licence probably better to get it in the first place.
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Cheers for the replies.If it takes another 6-8 months to convert the licence from Basair then I guess the course in WAAC would be the best bet plus I know people in Perth so Ill have free accomodation at least 
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fast track pilot training
Guys,
Here is the website I'm speaking about: http://www.ftpilottraining.com/
Yes, I'm living in the UK. I was pondering over the idea of getting a CASA licence and setteling out there given that it makes more financial sense compared to £60K that they're asking for at flight schools here.
I'm not sure what the make-up of the industry is like out in Australia. I spoke to a Pilot who works for Qantas whop tells me that there are not enough pilots out there at the moment so would be easier to get residence on the basis of a skilled migrant. Not sure what you guys think.
Here is the website I'm speaking about: http://www.ftpilottraining.com/
Yes, I'm living in the UK. I was pondering over the idea of getting a CASA licence and setteling out there given that it makes more financial sense compared to £60K that they're asking for at flight schools here.
I'm not sure what the make-up of the industry is like out in Australia. I spoke to a Pilot who works for Qantas whop tells me that there are not enough pilots out there at the moment so would be easier to get residence on the basis of a skilled migrant. Not sure what you guys think.
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I know it seems unreal but this company has been developing this training over the last ten years. The facts are that the airline's are desperate for pilots and the key to getting a job is to get your licence asap because ther will be a big shortage of pilots world wide in the near future. I know that there are a few airline company's who have met with the ceo of the company and are interested in the training that this course provides. The great thing about the course is you can start any day you want, there are no set dates and you work at your own pace. I encourage any interested pilots to log on to the web site and have a look for themselves and contact the company through the contact button.
http://www.ftpilottraining.com
http://www.ftpilottraining.com
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Sydney Flight Training Centre
Does anyone know anything about Sydnhey Flight Training Centre located at bankstown Airport? I'm planning to go there to do a CPL + MEIR. I have met the MD of the school, and he seems like a very dedicated person. Thanks.
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Sydney Flight Training Centre - SFTC
Hi Everyone! I'm thinking about joining Sydney Flight Training Centre for a CPL + ME + MEIR training in about 2 months. I'm going along with 6 of my colleagues. I just wanted to see if anyone has any information or advise on this school. This is going to entail a huge financial investment, and I really need to be sure this is the place. At first sight the place seems great. I have met the MD and he seems like a realy great guy. But alas, one can never be totally sure of a place until one is actually there. Any graduates from SFTC around who can give any recommendations? Thanks a bunch!