ME & IR questions (inc. renewal)
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Linda Mollinson has spoken to the CAA today and had it confirmed that you can still renew/revalidate your IR on the sim in consecutive years. The statement in LASORS has not come into effect yet as the ANO hasn't been changed.
I too rang the CAA last week and they told me that revalidations had to be done in the a/c every alternate year. They are giving out duff info!
I too rang the CAA last week and they told me that revalidations had to be done in the a/c every alternate year. They are giving out duff info!
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Hi All
thanks for the excellent replies.
Just to confirm ive just got off the phone with the CAA and they have confirmed to me that if the IR lapses it is still at the moment ok to complete the renewal in a simulator. The porposal has not yet been through parliament and as such is not yet in force.
It will be legal in the not too distant future but at the moment it is perfectly acceptable to renew a lapsed IR in the simulator.
Dragstrut
thanks for the excellent replies.
Just to confirm ive just got off the phone with the CAA and they have confirmed to me that if the IR lapses it is still at the moment ok to complete the renewal in a simulator. The porposal has not yet been through parliament and as such is not yet in force.
It will be legal in the not too distant future but at the moment it is perfectly acceptable to renew a lapsed IR in the simulator.
Dragstrut
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Dragstrut - care to post the name of the person at the CAA who told you this? That way anyone else can speak to them with a similar query and hopefully stop the confusion...
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Thank you EGBKFLYER for your information,
but I know that I will have automatically Class 2 privileges if I renew Class 1. The Class 2 is for example, in Germany, more cheaper than the Class 1. And I want also to let my IFR (SEP) lapsed - for one year , in order to save the money for my yearly check.
I have no desire to make a renewal by the AMC, which is very cost-intensive with stricter examination, that´s why I asked that for.
But, the link at the CAA website which you gave me, it seems like to be that a renewal for Class 1 may be made also by AME not only by AMC, respectively only for the initial JAR Class 1 examination has to be done by the AMC, right ?
By the way, I paid 240 Euro for my AME (Class 1) in Germany– it seems that he had robbed me . Next time I will go to an AME in UK.
Last question due I want to convert my german JAR CPL/IR into a UK JAR CPL/IR licence...
I noticed that the british Flight Radiotelephony Operators Licence is
limited valid – for ten years. Do you have to pass an examination? How do you extend the validity? For exampel the german Flight Radiotelephony Operators is valid for an unlimited period.
Thanks in advance and sorry for my bad english knowledge.
but I know that I will have automatically Class 2 privileges if I renew Class 1. The Class 2 is for example, in Germany, more cheaper than the Class 1. And I want also to let my IFR (SEP) lapsed - for one year , in order to save the money for my yearly check.
I have no desire to make a renewal by the AMC, which is very cost-intensive with stricter examination, that´s why I asked that for.
But, the link at the CAA website which you gave me, it seems like to be that a renewal for Class 1 may be made also by AME not only by AMC, respectively only for the initial JAR Class 1 examination has to be done by the AMC, right ?
By the way, I paid 240 Euro for my AME (Class 1) in Germany– it seems that he had robbed me . Next time I will go to an AME in UK.
Last question due I want to convert my german JAR CPL/IR into a UK JAR CPL/IR licence...
I noticed that the british Flight Radiotelephony Operators Licence is
limited valid – for ten years. Do you have to pass an examination? How do you extend the validity? For exampel the german Flight Radiotelephony Operators is valid for an unlimited period.
Thanks in advance and sorry for my bad english knowledge.
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Schimmel, the British "FRTOL" does, as you say, have a limited life (but it is issued free of charge if done to support a flight crew licence).
The CAA will simply issue you with another FRTOL to renew the outgoing one IF YOU CAN SHOW that you have operated either light aircraft in UK airspace (for a reasonable amount of time/experience) OR have operated heavy public transport aircraft in Western Europe, during the lifetime of the expiring FRTOL.
By "heavy" I mean relative to a Seneca or C172.
The CAA will simply issue you with another FRTOL to renew the outgoing one IF YOU CAN SHOW that you have operated either light aircraft in UK airspace (for a reasonable amount of time/experience) OR have operated heavy public transport aircraft in Western Europe, during the lifetime of the expiring FRTOL.
By "heavy" I mean relative to a Seneca or C172.
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Thanks Keygrip for your reply.
Just only for confirmation,:
By "heavy" I mean relative to a Seneca or C172.
You mean that is not sufficiently to have been flown a Seneca, C172, Piper Archer, etc. in Western Europe, it has to be a heavy public transport aircraft or/respectively a light aircraft in UK airspace? Correct? Pls. confirm.
By the way , Today I have received my JAR UK CPL IR due of conversion. Cool blue book, it looks much more better and more professional than the German rag . And a very friendly service of the CAA. God save the UK CAA .
But now, I have one more question .
I would like to to acquire the MEP Rating with IFR.
a)How many hours do I have to fly, in order to receive the MEP with IFR in UK? , now I have a JAR UK CPL IR (SEP).
After my level of knowledge I should fly 6 hours (MEP VFR) plus 5 hours (IFR), thereof 3 hours can be flown on simulator. Or as alternative according JAR FCL 9 hours, but then however everything must be flown real. Ist that correct?
c) Can you give me still finally a tip, where I can acquire the MEP IR very cheap, also abroad. Any suggestions ? Thank you.
Just only for confirmation,:
By "heavy" I mean relative to a Seneca or C172.
You mean that is not sufficiently to have been flown a Seneca, C172, Piper Archer, etc. in Western Europe, it has to be a heavy public transport aircraft or/respectively a light aircraft in UK airspace? Correct? Pls. confirm.
By the way , Today I have received my JAR UK CPL IR due of conversion. Cool blue book, it looks much more better and more professional than the German rag . And a very friendly service of the CAA. God save the UK CAA .
But now, I have one more question .
I would like to to acquire the MEP Rating with IFR.
a)How many hours do I have to fly, in order to receive the MEP with IFR in UK? , now I have a JAR UK CPL IR (SEP).
After my level of knowledge I should fly 6 hours (MEP VFR) plus 5 hours (IFR), thereof 3 hours can be flown on simulator. Or as alternative according JAR FCL 9 hours, but then however everything must be flown real. Ist that correct?
c) Can you give me still finally a tip, where I can acquire the MEP IR very cheap, also abroad. Any suggestions ? Thank you.
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IR renewal - Sim or aircraft?
Hi Pruners,
I have searched, but can't find the answer so far.....
My ME/IR lapsed 2 and a half years ago. Can I renew on FNPTII or does it have to be on the aircraft? Obvisously cost is the issue here.
Thanks in advance.
WTSS
I have searched, but can't find the answer so far.....
My ME/IR lapsed 2 and a half years ago. Can I renew on FNPTII or does it have to be on the aircraft? Obvisously cost is the issue here.
Thanks in advance.
WTSS
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IR Renewal - FNPT2 Recommended Places.
Hi everyone.
Just wanted to find out a good place to do my IR Renewal before the new changes occur to renewals.
I renewed my IR in Jan 2004 in the FNPT2 at Bristol but i want to do it again before the new rule changes and cost is a factor.
I'm living in the South East now but i'll go back to Bristol if there is nothing nearer.
Regards
Just wanted to find out a good place to do my IR Renewal before the new changes occur to renewals.
I renewed my IR in Jan 2004 in the FNPT2 at Bristol but i want to do it again before the new rule changes and cost is a factor.
I'm living in the South East now but i'll go back to Bristol if there is nothing nearer.
Regards
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Did mine with mike bolton from what was S.T.S at bournemouth on sept 11th.
Great new sim 'duchess' config. practice and test same day what more could you want.
no regrets at all, give him a call.
I am one happy punter !!
no i dont work for them blah...blah.....
http://www.simulatortrainingservices.co.uk/contact.html
Regards
EGHI
Great new sim 'duchess' config. practice and test same day what more could you want.
no regrets at all, give him a call.
I am one happy punter !!
no i dont work for them blah...blah.....
http://www.simulatortrainingservices.co.uk/contact.html
Regards
EGHI
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You want to do the one that will get you employed the quickest. May I suggest that 'Down-under' you'll have more chance with an Instructor Rating. The CIR is only a matter of time and money and don't fortget that you'll probably be able to get the training at a better rate in the organisation where you instruct.
Best of Luck.
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Best of Luck.
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IR renewal theory
I am looking at renewing my long since lapsed IR[H] which would involve the IR exams. The ordeal of resitting exams I passed over 20 years ago is one that I don't relish and I'll only be able to do it as a distance learning package. I've sniffed round a couple of the appropriate schools but the request seems to be one they're not used to.
Does anyone have similar experience or recommendations? Thanks in advance.
Does anyone have similar experience or recommendations? Thanks in advance.
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This may not help in the slightest, but IR (A) exams are exactly the same as IR (H), so try asking for this at the schools.
Second thought, they probably all know this anyway and would have said something....I'll post this pointless piece of info anyway
Second thought, they probably all know this anyway and would have said something....I'll post this pointless piece of info anyway
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I've just revalidated mine at Stapleford Flight centre. Probably far more convenient than Bristol if you're in the South-east.
I was very impressed with the place and Eric was very good as I needed a few hours to gety up to speed.
Regards,
Jim.
I was very impressed with the place and Eric was very good as I needed a few hours to gety up to speed.
Regards,
Jim.