Night Flight with US Validation
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Enroll in a course of training for the full FAA PPL certificate.
Meet all the pre solo requirements of 61.87(d), complete the night training requirements and be allowed to fly solo at night under a solo night endorsement.
Big difference here that you are now flying on a FAA Student Pilot Certificate (& medical) and with a solo endorsement.
You are NOT flying on the priviliges of your piggy back 61.75 certificate.
Meet all the pre solo requirements of 61.87(d), complete the night training requirements and be allowed to fly solo at night under a solo night endorsement.
Big difference here that you are now flying on a FAA Student Pilot Certificate (& medical) and with a solo endorsement.
You are NOT flying on the priviliges of your piggy back 61.75 certificate.
Rather than do the piggy back think its a good idea to get the standalone FAA licence. This does require a flight test and the US exams, but this is not much more than the checkride that any school will put you through before they will rent you an aircraft. If you have the required number of night hours in your logbook then your US licence will be valid after dark. These night hours can be done in the UK or in the US.
You get the temporary licence straight away after a successful test!!
That's not possible. You can't hold the student pilot certificate and the 61.75 Private at the same time.
Source:
Flight Standards Information System (FSIMS)
FSIMS Document Viewer
5-597 U.S. PILOT CERTIFICATES THAT MAY BE ISSUED TO A PERSON WHO HOLDS A FOREIGN PILOT LICENSE.
Look under C (3)
So after you have met the pre solo training requirements, which can be completed in 2-3 flights and the night flying requirements met you can be allowed to fly solo at night on a solo endoresement. No passengers.
You are now excercising the priviliges of a US student pilot certificate and not your 61.75 certificate.
So during the day you carry passengers and you can go anywhere you like and during night you are solo and limited to what your instructor has endorsed you to do.
The FAA will answer the question that you ask, everything stated by BigCrecian is correct (almost everything
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By their own admission the FAA is not the most standardized institution in the world. Some regulations are very specific and some are vague and open to more interpretation. You may even have a letter of authorization from the FAA that was issued based on incorrect or incomplete information.
You may have a letter of authorization from the local FSDO based on correct information provided but a wrong interpretation and it is revoked later.
Wouldn't be the first time. Doesn't make it right.
61.75 is a validation based on your foreign qualifications. It carries the restrictions of your foreign license.
I. Added Ratings to a U.S. Pilot Certificate. If a person requests that a rating be added to his/her U.S. pilot certificate on the basis of meeting the appropriate pilot certification requirements of part 61 (i.e., the practical test and the knowledge test, if applicable), those requirements must be accomplished before the issuance of that additional rating. However, if the person requests the added rating on the basis of that rating having been added to his/her foreign pilot license, no knowledge test or practical test is required. The authenticity of the foreign license must be verified before adding the appropriate rating.
A new application and license verification must be completed.
So if you really can't help yourself and you have a letter from the local FSDO authorizing it, go ahead. Doesn't make it right.
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However, if the person requests the added rating on the basis of that rating having been added to his/her foreign pilot license, no knowledge test or practical test is required. The authenticity of the foreign license must be verified before adding the appropriate rating.
OMG semantics......
it's an operating privilige which is the same thing with a different name. JHC ![Ugh](https://www.pprune.org/images/smilies2/eusa_wall.gif)
If your European certificate states maximum 2000kgs, that's not a rating either so can you now fly a heavier aircraft in the US after you've done training with an instructor?
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If your European certificate states maximum 2000kgs, that's not a rating either so can you now fly a heavier aircraft in the US after you've done training with an instructor?
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Sorry B2N2 but it's not a semantic. There is quite a bit of difference between a rating and a qualification. That is why they are given different names.
For example, with a qualification, there is no theory, no test, no renewals.
Likewise if I asked the FAA to add a night qualification to my FAA certificate they would tell me that there was no such thing.
To ignore that is to ignore the facts to suit your argument.
For example, with a qualification, there is no theory, no test, no renewals.
Likewise if I asked the FAA to add a night qualification to my FAA certificate they would tell me that there was no such thing.
To ignore that is to ignore the facts to suit your argument.
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I can't remember whether it would or not, because I think I did my 61.75 after doing my night qualification but the answer the debate over whether a new FAA cert would need to be issued or not surely hinges on whether the original one specifically said 'Day VFR only' on it.
If it didn't then (which I suspect it wouldn't) then there would be no reason to go through the 61.75 process again.
If it didn't then (which I suspect it wouldn't) then there would be no reason to go through the 61.75 process again.
What I stated earlier was copy and paste (no interpretation) from what was fromerly known as the FAA Inspectors handbook order 8900 and is now online as FSIMS.
Absolutely agree with you.
I would expect that a change of operating priviliges or the addition of a rating would mean reissuance of the original beacuse of some added text in which case a new 61.75 should be issued.
Certain issues will always be skewed.
To the original poster: let us know how everything worked out and if you enjoyed your flying holiday in the USA
the debate over whether a new FAA cert would need to be issued or not surely hinges on whether the original one specifically said 'Day VFR only' on it.
I would expect that a change of operating priviliges or the addition of a rating would mean reissuance of the original beacuse of some added text in which case a new 61.75 should be issued.
Certain issues will always be skewed.
To the original poster: let us know how everything worked out and if you enjoyed your flying holiday in the USA
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