FOOT AND MOUTH - CLOSURE OF GRASS STRIPS
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FOOT AND MOUTH - CLOSURE OF GRASS STRIPS
I've heard a rumour that flying may be restricted as a result of the foot and mouth issue. The military have already grounded their fleets with all military training areas and grass airfields now closed. Does anyone have any more news on this?
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It concentrates the mind doesn't it.
We worry about the state of GA, and the risk to the occupants and a few third parties of an accident. Frankly, short of crashing a 747 onto the middle of London, nothing aviation could suffer compares to the problems suffered by farming at the moment.
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We worry about the state of GA, and the risk to the occupants and a few third parties of an accident. Frankly, short of crashing a 747 onto the middle of London, nothing aviation could suffer compares to the problems suffered by farming at the moment.
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muhdzailan The problem here is foot & mouth. Hand, foot and mouth disease in humans (Enteroviral Vesicular Stomatitis with Exanthem) is completely different to foot and mouth in livestock.
HFM disease is usually a minor illness with only a few days of fever and relatively mild symptoms.
They do happen to be both RNA genome (positive strand) viruses within the overall classification group picornaviridae. But the cattle one is a totally different disease.
HFM disease is usually a minor illness with only a few days of fever and relatively mild symptoms.
They do happen to be both RNA genome (positive strand) viruses within the overall classification group picornaviridae. But the cattle one is a totally different disease.
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The following is being put out by the British Microlight Association at the moment, and I'm reliably assured that the other main sport flying associations are giving similar advice...
(1) All flying from farmland should cease immediately (this is a request from them at present, not an order, but it would be unwise of any pilot to disregard it).
(2) In the event of an outlanding on farmland, before moving the aircraft or flying off, contact the farmer and take advice. They may well require the aircraft to be disinfected before it is removed.
(3) All known infection sites are to be avoided by at least 2nm radius and 1500ft, these are all listed in NOTAMS at http://www.ais.org.uk/
CAA General Aviation Department are currently looking into the issue, and deciding if they need to put any formal advice out, in the meantime concerned BMAA members can contact the MAFF "Foot and Mouth Helpline" on 0845-426153.
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(1) All flying from farmland should cease immediately (this is a request from them at present, not an order, but it would be unwise of any pilot to disregard it).
(2) In the event of an outlanding on farmland, before moving the aircraft or flying off, contact the farmer and take advice. They may well require the aircraft to be disinfected before it is removed.
(3) All known infection sites are to be avoided by at least 2nm radius and 1500ft, these are all listed in NOTAMS at http://www.ais.org.uk/
CAA General Aviation Department are currently looking into the issue, and deciding if they need to put any formal advice out, in the meantime concerned BMAA members can contact the MAFF "Foot and Mouth Helpline" on 0845-426153.
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They can, but there hadn't been an outbreak in the UK for 20 years, and a bad outbreak for 34 years. Farmers are struggling badly enough anyway, and most elected not to have this insurance.
I'm not a farmer, they were talking about this on Radio 4 this morning.
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I'm not a farmer, they were talking about this on Radio 4 this morning.
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It is sad that our farming community has been hit by foot and mouth just after the floods have been causing havok.Many people percieve most aviators are the rich and wealhty playing with thier toys we know differently.The press and others also put farmers in different catagories,This is in much the same way some farmers are prone to dress up in red wearing long boots jump on the back of some mare and flogg her hot rump with a riding crop out in the middle of an open field in order to get better service, some may say this is a reasonable pursuit but please note i am writing and having a dig about fox hunting not another kind of enjoyable activity.Many farmers allow farm strips to operate from their land they are decent guys and are aware as well as us that the possibilities of foot and mouth being spread by aircraft movements is difficult to establish but it is stopped because of the implications of this terrible outbreak.People get out of landed aircraft and walk off fields which may spread this contamination so lets all hope just like many farmers are hoping things dont get worse.
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Just like to commend you guys for the responsible attitude you're taking.
I hope it doesnt interfere with your pursuits for an unreasonable amount of time - your efforts are appreciated by the entire farming community.
Just for info:
F & M comes in 7 different forms - all as virulent as each other.
Vaccinations are available, but they are very expensive, only cover one type of the disease at once, and you cannot potect against more than one strain at once.
F & M loves cold, wet weather but will die off in the heat.
Insurance cover is available, but again it is very expensive, and only covers the cost price of the animal at purchase - not production costs and profits.
An animal with F & M can recover - but will suffer imensely in the process, and will physically never be the same again.
The height of restricted areas will depend upon location, the higher the amsl of the farm etc, the lower the height of the TRA above ground level.
Many farmers, hauliers and some butchers will never recover from this, compensation from the government will not keep the farms running as cash flow is king.
We hold our collective breath and wait.
Thanks again.
I hope it doesnt interfere with your pursuits for an unreasonable amount of time - your efforts are appreciated by the entire farming community.
Just for info:
F & M comes in 7 different forms - all as virulent as each other.
Vaccinations are available, but they are very expensive, only cover one type of the disease at once, and you cannot potect against more than one strain at once.
F & M loves cold, wet weather but will die off in the heat.
Insurance cover is available, but again it is very expensive, and only covers the cost price of the animal at purchase - not production costs and profits.
An animal with F & M can recover - but will suffer imensely in the process, and will physically never be the same again.
The height of restricted areas will depend upon location, the higher the amsl of the farm etc, the lower the height of the TRA above ground level.
Many farmers, hauliers and some butchers will never recover from this, compensation from the government will not keep the farms running as cash flow is king.
We hold our collective breath and wait.
Thanks again.
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F&M is a major tragedy for farmers.
I remember the last major outbreak in Cheshire/Shropshire. There was a farmer who had taken 20+years to breed a dairy herd. No amount of money could compensate him for his life's work. After they set fire to the last of the carcasses he shot himself.
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I remember the last major outbreak in Cheshire/Shropshire. There was a farmer who had taken 20+years to breed a dairy herd. No amount of money could compensate him for his life's work. After they set fire to the last of the carcasses he shot himself.
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I am indeed very sorry for the plight of farmers in these troubled times, my family are farmers so it is heartfealt. Never the less let us be very clear that insurance, including loss of profits, is available and as has been suggested elsewhere it is at the option of the farmer that he uses insurance or not. If not then the poor old taxpayer is expected to bail our farming once again Why cannot farming like nearly every other industry stand alone without a hand very deep in the pocket of the taxpayer? I do not in any way criticise any farmer for taking anything to which he is entitled. If he(/she) does not then they most emphatically should. What is at fault is the system which will have to be addressed before it bankrupts European farming.
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How about we stick to the thread here? This is the private flying forum, talking about the effect of F&M on aviation, not how hard done by farmers are. Lets talk about flying, not farming (unless anyone wants to talk about the flying farmers association or agricultural aviation. Now that's flying!)
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