can you run a diesel car on JET A1
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I know quite a few people wo do this, mostly broke First Officers who need to get to work.
There places on the internet that you can buy kits that filter and process the waste food oil into bio diesel in your garage. The older less fussy diesels will run directly on vegatable oil mixed with a little diesel. The smell is atrocious!
There places on the internet that you can buy kits that filter and process the waste food oil into bio diesel in your garage. The older less fussy diesels will run directly on vegatable oil mixed with a little diesel. The smell is atrocious!
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This thread is now way off-topic, but indirect injection diesels such as the Peugeot XUD will run on neat veg oil, either fresh or waste (filtered). The Bosch injection pump is vital, as the Lucas pump will break on cold oil.
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i ran my oil central heating system for many years on waste A1. used to get three quarters of a tank of normal heating oil to provide pump lubrication, and then topped it up every week with a few 25L drums.
kept SWMBO happy!
i ran my oil central heating system for many years on waste A1. used to get three quarters of a tank of normal heating oil to provide pump lubrication, and then topped it up every week with a few 25L drums.
kept SWMBO happy!
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Read here:
HM Revenue & Customs: Revenue & Customs Brief 11/08
http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsP...HMCE_CL_000205
Might be of interest.
The US/UK military now have diesel motorbikes that run off jet fuel, as apparently in the US the motorbike was the only vehicle requiring petrol.
Believe in Iraq the US have had some problems using jet fuel in their tanks (the ones with jet engines), as the fuel pumps have been failing.
HM Revenue & Customs: Revenue & Customs Brief 11/08
http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsP...HMCE_CL_000205
Might be of interest.
The US/UK military now have diesel motorbikes that run off jet fuel, as apparently in the US the motorbike was the only vehicle requiring petrol.
Believe in Iraq the US have had some problems using jet fuel in their tanks (the ones with jet engines), as the fuel pumps have been failing.
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Some diesel injection pumps don't rely on the lubricity of the fuel itself to lubricate them. 
Not entirely correct AA, not all FAME's (Fatty Acid Methyl Esthers) improve lubricity (though most do admittedly)
ULSD has a specified lubricity minima in any event. If the lubricity of the finished fuel blend is too low, lubricity improver is added.
ULSD has a specified lubricity minima in any event. If the lubricity of the finished fuel blend is too low, lubricity improver is added.
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Diesel
When Mr Diesel invented his engine he fuelled it with peanut oil. at that time the mineral oil we now refine into what we call diesel fuel oil was not available. The refined mineral products became cheap and plentiful and peanut oil was no longer economic. Funny how things go full circle.
Bosch pumps are indeed the preferred option for those of us who run straight veg oil (SVO). Lucas CAV pumps don't like the veg oil as it's too thick. the answer is to heat the veg oil before it goes thru the injector pump, this changes the viscosity to a level akin to that of normal diesel.
Waste veg oil (WVO) simply needs to be filtered to make it useable in a diesel.
Many engines will run happily on straight veg oil without modification. I understand that 5% unleaded helps.
The more modern engines with all their fancy electronic sensors can be awkward if you try to burn SVO/WVO and common rail types (I'm told) are problematic.
You can use up to 2500 litres of veg oil per annum without having to pay duty. If you go over that figure, I understand you are liable for duty on the whole lot.
A little over a year ago you could run on veg oil bought from tesco and literally halve your fuel costs. Now the prices are much the same. If you can source WVO then you are quids in
Bosch pumps are indeed the preferred option for those of us who run straight veg oil (SVO). Lucas CAV pumps don't like the veg oil as it's too thick. the answer is to heat the veg oil before it goes thru the injector pump, this changes the viscosity to a level akin to that of normal diesel.
Waste veg oil (WVO) simply needs to be filtered to make it useable in a diesel.
Many engines will run happily on straight veg oil without modification. I understand that 5% unleaded helps.
The more modern engines with all their fancy electronic sensors can be awkward if you try to burn SVO/WVO and common rail types (I'm told) are problematic.
You can use up to 2500 litres of veg oil per annum without having to pay duty. If you go over that figure, I understand you are liable for duty on the whole lot.
A little over a year ago you could run on veg oil bought from tesco and literally halve your fuel costs. Now the prices are much the same. If you can source WVO then you are quids in
