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Old 22nd Jun 2008, 15:40
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Who is/was Hades?
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Old 22nd Jun 2008, 16:47
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Ah thanks Bose! I'm on the same page now, ta! Did not know that was the term for a live missle- one shall try to use it more in conversation now! VFE.
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When I was learning on PA-28 three years ago at Shoreham I was constantly being told to land at considerably higher than the book landing speed. Two-up I should have been taught to land at 59Kt maybe but was being trained to land at 70 with consequent bounces, balloons and general loss of my confidence that I would ever manage it. Come my first solo the CFI saw me coming in at 70 and asked what the landing speed should be. I said at this weight, 59Kt. He said "well DO IT then" (sort of what he said). The landing was great and he sent me solo immediately after.
I suspect my instructor had a fear of students stalling on final.
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Old 27th Jun 2008, 11:39
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I flew into Denham the day after, and when I went up to pay the landing fee the FISO asked if we had seen the Cirrus in the trees on final (we were landing on 24)! I didn't see the Cirrus (must've been concentrating on the landing lol!)
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Old 29th Jun 2008, 09:00
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Amazing that people can't grasp the difference between approach speed and threshold speed...
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Old 29th Jun 2008, 20:45
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and also that, an injection of common sense stops the thread in its tracks...

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Old 29th Jun 2008, 20:53
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When I was learning on PA-28 three years ago at Shoreham I was constantly being told to land at considerably higher than the book landing speed. Two-up I should have been taught to land at 59Kt maybe but was being trained to land at 70 with consequent bounces, balloons and general loss of my confidence that I would ever manage it. Come my first solo the CFI saw me coming in at 70 and asked what the landing speed should be. I said at this weight, 59Kt. He said "well DO IT then" (sort of what he said). The landing was great and he sent me solo immediately after.
I suspect my instructor had a fear of students stalling on final.
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Sounds to me like the CFI needs to have a word with this instructor!
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