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Old 2nd Oct 2007, 12:29
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PA28/C172 Differences

How different are the C172/PA28 a/c and how many hours would it take to convert?

How different are they both to fly?
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Samual,
see here, and also here for recent discussion of this topic. You may also find this page useful in future.

The short answer thought is "not a lot" (flying wise). A couple of hours should be enough.

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If you'll fly the PA28, buy an umbrella. Sheltering from the rain under a PA28 wing makes ya look rather silly...
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One's a proper plane and one isn't.

As my FI instructor once said to me, "How many hours you got in a Cessna then".

"just 2 sir"

"That's 2 too many boy"

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Conversion should take little more than an hour.

The only difference is in turns where the Cessna wing tends to blank out your view of anyone in the vicinity of travel. Obviously, the view downward from a Cessna is better, but frankly both types are pussycats.

I do prefer low wing aircraft but that's just a personal view.

Enjoy.

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One's a proper plane and one isn't.
Many would say neither of these are proper Aeroplanes, proper ones having the third wheel at the back!
Personally I would say they are fairly similar, but fly something like a Robin,Pup, Bulldog, Chippie etc. and you will then find out how an aeroplane should handle.
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One lacks a high wing, the other lacks a low wing, and as such, both equally flawed.....something that can only be addressed by flying a type with has both....
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You forgot the one in the middle
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Originally Posted by EvilKitty
You forgot the one in the middle
..only used by nasty old Fokkers.

Boooom Tisch! Athankya.
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How boring do you want different? They differ but not a lot. There are real aeroplanes as an alternative.
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I went from c152 to pa28 at the weekend in 40 mins. Nothing really different just wing is below you and you have handbrake flaps and a new set of figure but lands the same all but a little heavy on the yoke in the flare.
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Cessna: push on the yoke, the houses get bigger. Pull on the yoke, the houses get smaller, but if you pull too much, they start to get bigger again.

Piper: push on the yoke, the houses get bigger. Pull on the yoke, the houses get smaller, but if you pull too much, they start to get bigger again.

That's about the size of it. Two competent spam cans. I happen to prefer low-wing as well, but that's a matter of personal preference and aesthetics. They each have their quirks, strengths and weaknesses.

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Which is better? An Austin Maxi or a Morris Marina?
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Is this like the PPL exams where you have to pick the answer thats almost, but not quite, exactly unlike a cup of tea?
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Hi Samuel,

this has been covered before. 'search and ye shall find'

i used to fly and instruct on both in the same day...no big deal...its just as has been said before...which you like better..

as old as a bush is the...some guys like high wingers and some low.....usually it depends on what you learned on but not always...

there are differences in handling, performance, take off and landing....but see previous discussions...

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I am one of the allegedly rare breed who learned on one type but then switched to the other. Learned on PA28s (160 & 180), but switched to 172 (albeit the RG version) & 182 thereafter. Reason: more space, two doors. Also prefer being able to just step in rather than clambering up on a wing. Still occasionally fly PA-28s, nothing wrong with them, it's really personal preference, nothing else.
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Yakabatics?

eharding wrote...

One lacks a high wing, the other lacks a low wing, and as such, both equally flawed.....something that can only be addressed by flying a type with has both....

Oh yeah, Ed? No more YAK52, then???

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