G-BRNZ-Where is it now?
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G-BRNZ-Where is it now?
I was looking through G-INFO and noticed this plane is registered untill 20/06/2008. I seem to recall it was subject to an investigation? Who's flying it these days? Used to belong to Billins of Cranfield i think?
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I think this might explain it a bit
Not sure what happened to the plane
after this event, but it is still registered to the pilot!!
Six deny people smuggling charges
The plane was said to be landed twice at Lamberhurst on 2 July
Six people including a pilot have denied charges of conspiracy to smuggle illegal immigrants into the UK.
Not sure what happened to the plane after this event, but it is still registered to the pilot!!
Six deny people smuggling charges
The plane was said to be landed twice at Lamberhurst on 2 JulySix people including a pilot have denied charges of conspiracy to smuggle illegal immigrants into the UK.
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It was certainly at Cranfield for a time at Billins when I was a member there. Back in '98 I went to Aus and there was a guy selling helicopter pleasure flights around Sydney harbour. We got chatting, and he mentioned that he used to fly a Cherokee 6 G-BRNZ. Quite a coincidence I thought.
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This aircraft WAS on the Billins line at Cranfield several years ago. It had left the line however about 12 months prior to it allegedly being used for smuggling, and had absolutely no involvement with Billins / Cranfield.
Casued some amusement in the flying club though! Not sure what the final outcome was.
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Casued some amusement in the flying club though! Not sure what the final outcome was.
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I'd hazard a guess it's locked in a hangar somewhere at great expense to the taxpayer while the CPS get a case together and into court. It is normal for the prosecutor to ask for the vehicles to be forfeited at the end of a successful trial - they are then sold by and the money goes to the Treasury, I believe.
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I'd hazard a guess it's locked in a hangar somewhere at great expense to the taxpayer while the CPS get a case together and into court. It is normal for the prosecutor to ask for the vehicles to be forfeited at the end of a successful trial - they are then sold by and the money goes to the Treasury, I believe.
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G-BRNZ
G-BRNZ used to be my aircraft for about 4 years and it was operated by Billins Air Services for about 2 years of my ownership and then I moved it to Elstree, ironically I had to put the 3 blade prop on it when it suffered a taxying accident where a brick hit the original 2 blade prop.
After I sold out of the aircraft it seemed to go on to have a chequered history.
Strangely if the Prop is off it now and anyone knows where it is I would like it back as the new owners never paid for it and it is still theoretically my property (long story, best not discussed on here)
After I sold out of the aircraft it seemed to go on to have a chequered history.
Strangely if the Prop is off it now and anyone knows where it is I would like it back as the new owners never paid for it and it is still theoretically my property (long story, best not discussed on here)
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At one time this used to be based at White Waltham and was known as "The banana Split" due to its yellow and White colour scheme.
It was a great aircraft and I did quite a few hours in it, just checked my log book and the last trip I did in GBRNZ was White Waltham to Cork on the 17/09/93........ 14:55 to 17:15 ( I can recommend the Guiness and hospitality in Cork
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It was a great aircraft and I did quite a few hours in it, just checked my log book and the last trip I did in GBRNZ was White Waltham to Cork on the 17/09/93........ 14:55 to 17:15 ( I can recommend the Guiness and hospitality in Cork
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G-BRNZ used to be my aircraft for about 4 years and it was operated by Billins Air Services for about 2 years of my ownership and then I moved it to Elstree, ironically I had to put the 3 blade prop on it when it suffered a taxying accident where a brick hit the original 2 blade prop.
After I sold out of the aircraft it seemed to go on to have a chequered history.
Strangely if the Prop is off it now and anyone knows where it is I would like it back as the new owners never paid for it and it is still theoretically my property)
After I sold out of the aircraft it seemed to go on to have a chequered history.
Strangely if the Prop is off it now and anyone knows where it is I would like it back as the new owners never paid for it and it is still theoretically my property)
Didn't you owe Laurence large amount of money for the hours that you've flown and didn't pay? Weren't you baned by the other group members from flying the aircraft until you clear your debt?
Just asking.
Can't agree more.
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Nice picture and great discussions about colour schemes but nobody seemed to have mentionted the best scheme it ever had with the big dice on it!
Nobody failed to notice that one!
Flew it when it was on the Billins line in '95
Nobody failed to notice that one!
Flew it when it was on the Billins line in '95
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Thats what i am trying to understand, AC-DC (great band by the way ) When do they (Customs and Excise, or whatever theyr'e called these days)(HMCR?) have these auctions and where do we go to grab a bargain Thats what i am trying to establish!
) When do they (Customs and Excise, or whatever theyr'e called these days)(HMCR?) have these auctions and where do we go to grab a bargain Thats what i am trying to establish!
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I thought it was used for smuggling people - Surely a police/ Immigration matter rather than HMCE. G-INFO shows the pilot only to be the 'Trustee' of the group so presumably not the outright owner. If the rest of it is owned by innocent parties presumably they still have a claim to it ?
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You will note today that the owner of th A/c and his cohorts were convicted of people smuggling . This means that in all likelihood the A/c will now be in the posession of the crown to be disposed with how they see fit . An auction may very well be the way they get rid of it . It is not a HMCE operation it was run by SOCA who as you may know are an amalgamation of the HMCE NCS and immigration service , one of their remits is that of people smuggling . unfortunately you cannot contact SOCA regarding this aircraft . With an organistaion such as this it is highly possible it will be used by them for other purposes , reregistered of course or they may dispnse with it under the poceeds of crime act . I would not expect to see it as G BRNZ again though
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