WARNING : France is No Longer JAR Conmpliant!!!
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Well, Ive been doing some investigating in the last couple of days ....
Apparently, there is a JAR proceedure for changing your licence state of issue.....its just that not everyone at DGAC seems inclined to go along with it.....and I dont think this would be wise considering the following :
I asked about the legality of flying with a French issue JAA-PPL and a non-JAA compliant French Class 2 medical, and eventually got the following response....
You are perfectly legel flying any F-Reg aeroplane either in France or abroard.
The DGAC THINK that flying a G-Reg (or other JAA state) within France is OK (insert gallic shrug!), but check with the state of aeroplane registry first for objections (CYA on further questioning!). However, Flying a G-Reg in the UK (or other JAA state/aeroplane combination) with a French issue JAA-PPL with a French Class 2 medical is would not be legal as the medical is not JAA compliant !!!!
Apparently this is the fault of the FFA (previously FNA), who lobbied successfully over the last few years not to force French PPLs to have JAA Class 2 medicals for some reason. This may or may not all change when EASA comes into force.
So, looks like Im grounded for the time being, as I might want to fly in the UK or elsewhere in JAA land, and so will be getting a UK Medical.....eventually.
Regards, SD..
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Apparently, there is a JAR proceedure for changing your licence state of issue.....its just that not everyone at DGAC seems inclined to go along with it.....and I dont think this would be wise considering the following :
I asked about the legality of flying with a French issue JAA-PPL and a non-JAA compliant French Class 2 medical, and eventually got the following response....
You are perfectly legel flying any F-Reg aeroplane either in France or abroard.
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Apparently this is the fault of the FFA (previously FNA), who lobbied successfully over the last few years not to force French PPLs to have JAA Class 2 medicals for some reason. This may or may not all change when EASA comes into force.
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So, looks like Im grounded for the time being, as I might want to fly in the UK or elsewhere in JAA land, and so will be getting a UK Medical.....eventually.
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Regards, SD..
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Skydriller,
I am in a similar situation as yourself, UK JAA PPL but flying in Belgium. Until now, I have maintained my medical by visiting an AME in the UK each year, so I haven't hit this problem.
Are you near a Ryanair stop? One solution might be to get a Ryanair cheepie to Stansted and have your medical done there (bl**dy expensive, e.g. x3 the cost of the flight - but that's the UK, of course).
The UK SRG recently e-mailed me with confirmation that a Belgian medical is acceptable, so maybe Ryanair Carcassones to Charleroi?
Alernatively go South to Spain.
P.M. me if you want details.
GB
I am in a similar situation as yourself, UK JAA PPL but flying in Belgium. Until now, I have maintained my medical by visiting an AME in the UK each year, so I haven't hit this problem.
Are you near a Ryanair stop? One solution might be to get a Ryanair cheepie to Stansted and have your medical done there (bl**dy expensive, e.g. x3 the cost of the flight - but that's the UK, of course).
The UK SRG recently e-mailed me with confirmation that a Belgian medical is acceptable, so maybe Ryanair Carcassones to Charleroi?
Alernatively go South to Spain.
P.M. me if you want details.
GB
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Crossing boundaries
You could consider the cost of a French Class 1 medical of course. Bit of pain here because you must undertake your first Medical class 1 at the CAA Gatwick Medical Centre but that might not be the case in France, that is, that you need to go to such efforts to gain a Class 1 in France. I presume from the Belgian Medical decision that a Class 1 in France would be acceptable in the UK. Under recent rule changes I believe that an expired JAA Class 1 drops to that of a class 2 to be valid for the period that your class 2 would be valid if issued as a class 2 initially. You would then renew your French class 1 at the same intervals as the class 2. Worth asking at least.
The other consideration is to gain an NPPL. Ask the french if they will accept that. I can hardly believe that the CAA would object to the french class 2 for the NPPL. But, who knows?
The other consideration is to gain an NPPL. Ask the french if they will accept that. I can hardly believe that the CAA would object to the french class 2 for the NPPL. But, who knows?