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Old 10th Oct 2006, 15:55
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Although I would argue that many of the outcomes quoted in the report should not be attributed solely to poor use of GPS I enjoyed reading it. The BEA have produced an excellent report that deserves study by all those who use GPS as another aid to navigation. The lack of availability of training in GPS use generally is something that flying training organisations should remedy.
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Old 10th Oct 2006, 20:59
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A GPS unit was found on board

Q. So if I fell off my scooter and a GPS was found in the wreckage would it be responsible for the crash?

A. Not if I had a good old VOR/DME/ADF/chart about my person and they were also found to be switched on at the time of impact.(Having a sharpened chinagraph pencil in my shirt pocket would automatically absolve me of any responsibility for the crime of being reliant on GPS.)(Having 2 is considered swotty )


Q. Do you know what all those airliner crashes have in common?

A. A black box is always found in the wreckage
There's the reason why they fell out of the sky - it's obviously the black box - no black box no crash?


IMHO the incidents alluded to in the link are a fairly standard array of NTSB/GASIL type serious or fatal occurences.

CFIT and fuel starvation figure quite prominently. Poor flight planning and judgement also predominate with possibly a slightly Darwinian flavour (the thunderstorm ones).

Here are my conclusions re: these incidents:

Conclusion 1 : most occurences listed result largely from human error compounded by bad luck.

Conclusion 2: Role of GPS - minimal, dare I say incidental in most.

Conclusion 3: Having one (or three) GPS unit(s) on board is a sign of the times but doesn't afford protection from the nearly always fatal disease of "sudden mountain" .

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Old 11th Oct 2006, 20:10
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All of the above should be mandatory reading for the big wigs at the CAA who are planning to introduce GPS NPA into Lil 'ol England sometime next year.

Seems like the kit's OK, it's the person using it.


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Old 12th Oct 2006, 14:29
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I dont think the CAA would be happy Sir George as they have also found in wreckage, shock horror, copies of CAA Charts for the relevant areas!!!

They are just trying to narrow it down now through an intensive pan European JAA/EASA study to which scale causes the most crashes....
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Old 18th Oct 2006, 10:59
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Originally Posted by G-KEST
Although I would argue that many of the outcomes quoted in the report should not be attributed solely to poor use of GPS I enjoyed reading it. The BEA have produced an excellent report that deserves study by all those who use GPS as another aid to navigation. The lack of availability of training in GPS use generally is something that flying training organisations should remedy.
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Absolutely true.

I do not think that it blames GPS for anything. It merely draws one's mind towards the realisation that people who simply can not fly without GPS should never leave the ground.

It also gave us a fair idea of how old IO540 is!

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