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andrewr 18th Jan 2021 09:39


Originally Posted by Squawk7700 (Post 10970223)
For those of you familiar with Melbourne airspace, what do you notice at the 6m 15s mark regarding the radio call(s)?

2500 is class E so no clearance required for VFR?

Squawk7700 18th Jan 2021 10:27


Originally Posted by andrewr (Post 10970326)
2500 is class E so no clearance required for VFR?

Bingo. He seems so surprised at how accommodating ATC are. Imagine his surprise at how easily he get gets his class G clearances.

andrewr 18th Jan 2021 10:46

He does fly IFR a bit, I suspect in that airspace he would usually be IFR. Plus the airspace is confusing, with C over E over D which the maps do not show well. I am sure that the controller would prefer to be talking to you if you are in any doubt.

Capt Fathom 18th Jan 2021 21:55

Of course, none of us here has ever made a mistake whilst flying! :uhoh:
In the video at the 2:35 mark, he makes the comment on how he will no doubt be judged on his abilities.
I’m mildly jealous though. I don’t have the means to enjoy the flying he does.

Squawk7700 18th Jan 2021 23:41

On the flip side and not referring to his abilities as a CPL trained IFR pilot, how is the Avalon airspace that complicated that someone with his experience doesn’t know how to transit through it, and if so, how did this happen, because if he is making this mistake, how many others are?

I think I read here somewhere that airspace over Avalon is changing soon, does anyone know when and what to?




andrewr 19th Jan 2021 21:10


Originally Posted by Squawk7700 (Post 10970838)
how is the Avalon airspace that complicated that someone with his experience doesn’t know how to transit through it, and if so, how did this happen

It looks like from 2010 to 2019 Avalon Class E operated as effectively Class D. Instrument CASA 178/10 required a pilot to maintain 2 way communication with the tower while operating in the airspace. That would constitute a clearance in Class D.

Instrument CASA 178/10 was repealed in 2019.

I can see how someone who worked from their charts and/or how they were trained instead of keeping up with the legislative instruments might make mistakes. It also seems reasonable to be cautious - I don't know whether Instrument 178/10 has been replaced by something with similar effect.

Squawk7700 20th Jan 2021 02:18


Originally Posted by andrewr (Post 10971568)
It looks like from 2010 to 2019 Avalon Class E operated as effectively Class D. Instrument CASA 178/10 required a pilot to maintain 2 way communication with the tower while operating in the airspace. That would constitute a clearance in Class D.

Instrument CASA 178/10 was repealed in 2019.

I can see how someone who worked from their charts and/or how they were trained instead of keeping up with the legislative instruments might make mistakes. It also seems reasonable to be cautious - I don't know whether Instrument 178/10 has been replaced by something with similar effect.

I can’t recall the entry being ERSA and I don’t have an old one to check, however I assume there must have been a one-liner in there saying that you had to pretend the class E is like class D and make calls in class E, like no other class E anywhere else (presumably), to a controller that is not based on the ground and not in direct contact with the aircraft in class C below. Makes sense!

So it looks like you can blast through the class E there as you please now. There’s no mention of any instruments in the ERSA that replace the old one.

Not confusing at all eh???

I recall entering the class E there a few years ago and being vectored around other aircraft by Melb approach and on one occasion I was advised to completely steer clear of the whole area due to some incoming aircraft in case they needed to go-around.

Stickshift3000 20th Jan 2021 04:00


Originally Posted by andrewr (Post 10971568)
It looks like from 2010 to 2019 Avalon Class E operated as effectively Class D. Instrument CASA 178/10 required a pilot to maintain 2 way communication with the tower while operating in the airspace. That would constitute a clearance in Class D.

Instrument CASA 178/10 was repealed in 2019.


Thanks for this info. I was told off by Avalon ATC for not broadcasting my intentions to enter class E (on a flight test of all times!). I wasn't aware of the CASA instrument or it’s subsequent repeal.

Edit: this was several years ago.

Capn Bloggs 20th Jan 2021 04:24

Becoming a Youtuber??

Capt Greenhorn 22nd Jan 2021 15:52


Originally Posted by nigelsomers (Post 10924481)
I see. I think Stefan Drury is making a full time living from it. I am only looking at it as a way of paying off my VET. I also see that Mentour Pilot is making more money from his channel than when he was a full time pilot.

No he isn't... Hes a professional and a business owner... His flying is purely a passion that he shares...

Squawk7700 22nd Jan 2021 20:36


Originally Posted by Capt Greenhorn (Post 10973776)
No he isn't... Hes a professional and a business owner... His flying is purely a passion that he shares...

That’s not what he told me when I met him at Avalon and we were were discussing YouTube hits and revenue generating.

Capt Fathom 22nd Jan 2021 21:41

That’s not what you inferred earlier!


Originally Posted by Squawk7700 (Post 10924536)
No he is not making a living from it, because his views aren’t high enough.


Squawk7700 23rd Jan 2021 03:18


Originally Posted by Capt Fathom (Post 10974000)
That’s not what you inferred earlier!

A professional for passion doesn’t run adverts on their channel. Attempting to, yes, but in reality, no...

simple9 10th Feb 2021 08:53

Has Bjornpilot (SAS) been fired? He just posted something about it on his Instagram...

Sad to hear it.





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PilotINOP 22nd Jul 2021 11:57


Originally Posted by nigelsomers (Post 10926044)
It says on PilotPatrick's profile that he's a Captain? Is that wrong? I am new to this industry but I don't understand why there is so much negativity and push back against Pilot Instagrammers and Youtube pilots. I like Missionary Pilot. His videos are awesome! He's probably inspired alot of people to get into aviation and learn to fly. I don't see that as negative as the rest of the people in this thread with their negative spins on it.

in his Instagram it says he’s still a captain. But he isn’t. You’ll notice if you look at it he hasn’t posted a photo of him in the flight deck of an aircraft in a very long time. But still puts on his captains uniform and takes photos in his house to post. There’s negativity towards them due to the amount of embarrassment a lot of them have caused to the industry. Yeah there’s some good ones for sure but there have been a lot of moments where pilots have looked at it and put their head in their hands. It’s better to just focus at the job at hand rather than get caught up trying to get YouTube famous.


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