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pineteam 15th Nov 2020 09:00

I have uploaded one raw data approach the other day with a friend of mine who made the video. Please like and share! I'm running low this month!



Ok I'm out. :}

smiling monkey 15th Nov 2020 09:02


Originally Posted by nigelsomers (Post 10926041)
Not planning on passing on any knowledge. The idea is to just film content and post it. I'm not an instructor so it cannot be educational. Is that what you mean?

What kind of 'content' have you got to offer that would be of interest on YouTube, as a newly qualified CPL with no job and no flying experience? Serious question.

Squawk7700 15th Nov 2020 09:36


Originally Posted by pineteam (Post 10926910)
I have uploaded one raw data approach the other day with a friend of mine who made the video. Please like and share! I'm running low this month!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNAMhvRkG9o


Ok I'm out. :}

You've got 43 views in a few days, no likes and no comments, plus you're got copyrighted music. You need to tick more boxes to make a living in this game :-)

audioguy 15th Nov 2020 17:39


Originally Posted by nigelsomers (Post 10924443)
Hi All,

I am wanting to you know your thoughts on becoming a Pilot Youtuber? I have a huge VET debt now and I've heard it is the "new career" for new pilot graduates which are apparently making alot of money from it. Any thoughts or tips?

Thanks!
Nigel

If you want a VERY rough idea of the range of Youtuber's income then this site gives a range and lets you look back at how they have grown their viewers over the years.

Early on I think your best bet is to get a Patreon channel or similar if only to get people sending you money directly if they like your videos. As several Youtubers I follow say... it pays for the fuel!

Dave

audioguy 15th Nov 2020 17:47

If the VET system is anything like the UK student loans system then a student would be stupid to spend a penny of their savings or other offered family money in paying off the debt. There are many reasons why you might never pay off the student loan so best to leave it until your wages are high enough to start paying it off automatically. Meanwhile the savings and family money goes on finding somewhere to live after the course, putting a deposit down and investing in whatever you need for your job.

You might never need to pay it back so why start?

Dave

Squawk7700 15th Nov 2020 21:00


Originally Posted by audioguy (Post 10927251)
If the VET system is anything like the UK student loans system then a student would be stupid to spend a penny of their savings or other offered family money in paying off the debt. There are many reasons why you might never pay off the student loan so best to leave it until your wages are high enough to start paying it off automatically. Meanwhile the savings and family money goes on finding somewhere to live after the course, putting a deposit down and investing in whatever you need for your job.

You might never need to pay it back so why start?

Dave

Social conscience. In Australia you pay it back because otherwise you are a leach on society and you cost the country billions.

Pretty hard to NOT pay it back in Australia with the threshold so low for paypack.

kingRB 15th Nov 2020 21:16


Originally Posted by audioguy (Post 10927251)
You might never need to pay it back so why start?

You might do well to educate yourself on where money / value comes from and how economies work. Here's your first lesson: Nothing in life comes for free.

audioguy 15th Nov 2020 22:12


Originally Posted by kingRB (Post 10927360)
You might do well to educate yourself on where money / value comes from and how economies work. Here's your first lesson: Nothing in life comes for free.

My university degree was free and I think it has earned the UK a lot more tax from me than if I hadn't done the degree. Generally training people up to degree level is good for the country and the economy. It's only in the last few years that university loans have come in in the UK and presumably the same in Australia. I am talking about using the university loan in the way it was designed to be used here in the UK. You sign up for the loan, do your degree and when you are earning enough (about £20000 here in the UK) you start paying it back as an additional tax. I don't necessarily agree with the UK government now charging for degrees that will help the economy but the way it is repaid as additional tax is not unduly regressive.

Dave

bringbackthe80s 16th Nov 2020 04:22

I am astonished by these suggestions. In fact I’m astonished airline pilot and youtube go in the same phrase these days.

Wirbelsturm 16th Nov 2020 10:00


I am talking about using the university loan in the way it was designed to be used here in the UK
I believe Martin Lewis of finance fame suggested the best analogy for the UK system.

"Don't consider it a debt, consider it a personal investment into your future earnings potential"

It's very true to say that nothing comes for free, the 'free' university degrees in the UK back up until the 2000's were paid for by the UK Government and, hence, the tax payer. In order to increase the availability of courses and to try to shrug off the veneer of 'elitism' under the social mobility banner the 'fee' was introduced including a 'means tested' sliding scale of benefits. As audioguy has correctly stated the investment of a country in education and the upward mobility of its citizens in the earnings market reaps taxation rewards that far exceed the initial outlay.

However in order to benefit from the future advantages such a qualification, be it a degree of a professional flying qualification, brings you must first invest. If that monetary outlay/debt is something you neither want or can handle then don't do the course. That investment also includes studying carefully future job markets for the qualification you are trying to achieve. Whilst no one could have foreseen the COVID collapse it is well known that the flying market is highly volatile and cyclic. Never trust a singular source (CAE! :ugh:).

Always remember that the current, younger job seekers are not 'leeches' but the ones that will be paying in the future for your, and my, retirement.

Even for Governments nothing comes for free! :ok:

Private jet 16th Nov 2020 19:12


Originally Posted by Wirbelsturm (Post 10927720)
I believe Martin Lewis of finance fame suggested the best analogy for the UK system.

"Don't consider it a debt, consider it a personal investment into your future earnings potential"

It's very true to say that nothing comes for free, the 'free' university degrees in the UK back up until the 2000's were paid for by the UK Government and, hence, the tax payer. In order to increase the availability of courses and to try to shrug off the veneer of 'elitism' under the social mobility banner the 'fee' was introduced including a 'means tested' sliding scale of benefits. As audioguy has correctly stated the investment of a country in education and the upward mobility of its citizens in the earnings market reaps taxation rewards that far exceed the initial outlay.

However in order to benefit from the future advantages such a qualification, be it a degree of a professional flying qualification, brings you must first invest. If that monetary outlay/debt is something you neither want or can handle then don't do the course. That investment also includes studying carefully future job markets for the qualification you are trying to achieve. Whilst no one could have foreseen the COVID collapse it is well known that the flying market is highly volatile and cyclic. Never trust a singular source
Always remember that the current, younger job seekers are not 'leeches' but the ones that will be paying in the future for your, and my, retirement.

All very true, a qualification is useless though unless you can profit from it.... With regards to Martin Lewis, I'm not a fan tbh, but that is a different discussion for a different time.

AviationReviewWA 24th Nov 2020 14:14


Originally Posted by Squawk7700 (Post 10924542)
YouTube views are worth approximately US$2,000 for 1 million views and Youtube will take 45% of that revenue, then you will pay income tax on that. That is considered the minimum

Stefan Drury 84,000 subscribers, 10.5m total channel views since it was created = TOTAL channel income starting at AUD $16,500, less tax (it varies widely, but you can bank on somewhere around that much or more)
Mentour Pilot 642,00 subscribers, 82m total channel views = Total income starting from US $136k gross.
Ninja Kids TV 10m subscribers, 4.5B views - do your numbers on that! Net channel worth is US $11m!
Steveo1Kinevo - 429,000 subscribers, 58m views = Total income starting from AUS $67,000 after tax....

+ any endorsements.

Some of those channels have been running for a long time to get to this point, so as you can see, it's certainly not all roses as those are the TOTAL channel income, not annual!

These numbers are so wrong! Every channel has a different CPM and they are a lot higher than you may think, particularly in aviation related fields.

Squawk7700 24th Nov 2020 22:03


Originally Posted by AviationReviewWA (Post 10933786)
These numbers are so wrong! Every channel has a different CPM and they are a lot higher than you may think, particularly in aviation related fields.

Even if they were double or triple that, it still doesn’t pay for the annuals.

You can Google the net worth of the channels quite easily. It’s why they all have to resort to paid promotions such as Trent Palmer promoting mattresses, not to mention those chasing Patreons.


210Terry 29th Nov 2020 02:47

then you get guys like this

noclue 1st Dec 2020 20:06

Are you allowed to takeoff from the apron if you don’t want the crosswind? Or is that only approved for A/C with an experimental sticker?

Squawk7700 1st Dec 2020 22:44


Originally Posted by noclue (Post 10938406)
Are you allowed to takeoff from the apron if you don’t want the crosswind? Or is that only approved for A/C with an experimental sticker?

If you have a monetised YouTube channel and an experimental aircraft, you are exempt from the requirements, unlike normal pilots and certified aircraft who must follow all rules.

RHSandLovingIt 4th Dec 2020 07:30

Pffft... Youtube is sooooo 2010's... it's 2020... get on TikTok :}

Squawk7700 18th Jan 2021 07:16


For those of you familiar with Melbourne airspace, what do you notice at the 6m 15s mark regarding the radio call(s)?

(You don’t have to sit through the whole thing, you can skip to that point)




Capt Fathom 18th Jan 2021 09:22

Do I sense an impending scandal?

Superfly Slick Dick 18th Jan 2021 09:36

Shocking..
He appeared to cut off the read back of MDS being cleared to Tyabb. (Granted.. could be edited that way)
also, he talks about getting a clearance.. however he doesn’t require a clearance where he is (operating VFR in Class E airspace).

Maybe I should be a pro YouTube dude.. would actually be of some educational value.

It’s so cute that he got all excited that he got through the scary ‘controlled airspace’. Reminds me of when I was a little boy.


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