QF638 go-around and diversion at YBBN
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I find some of the responses on this thread quite alarming.
I don't understand how people can realistically think that the operating crew didn't consider Coolangatta or Maroochy. I can't imagine any RPT Jet captain diverting BN to TW and not considering closer alternatives.
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In this day and age, if the pax deplane, they must be security screened before re boarding. I have enough trouble getting security people on hand for day time unscheduled tech stop (for fuel), I would imagine that in TW at night, it would be nigh on impossible.
Therefore, no security, no deplane, and your belief that you should be able to get off becomes irrelevant.
I don't understand how people can realistically think that the operating crew didn't consider Coolangatta or Maroochy. I can't imagine any RPT Jet captain diverting BN to TW and not considering closer alternatives.
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In this day and age, if the pax deplane, they must be security screened before re boarding. I have enough trouble getting security people on hand for day time unscheduled tech stop (for fuel), I would imagine that in TW at night, it would be nigh on impossible.
Therefore, no security, no deplane, and your belief that you should be able to get off becomes irrelevant.
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Very normal really.
A/C departed knowing RW01/19 closed due works. (Thats why they had enough fuel to reach TW).
They planned to do the VOR/BME to RW14. Didn't get visual and went round.
CG and maroochy had similar WX and only VOR app's as well.
Decided to divert to TW ( a normal QF 737 alternate) with required reserves and where the WX was better.
Waited on the ground TW until Wx improved or RW 01/19 reopened.
Simple and all legal!
A/C departed knowing RW01/19 closed due works. (Thats why they had enough fuel to reach TW).
They planned to do the VOR/BME to RW14. Didn't get visual and went round.
CG and maroochy had similar WX and only VOR app's as well.
Decided to divert to TW ( a normal QF 737 alternate) with required reserves and where the WX was better.
Waited on the ground TW until Wx improved or RW 01/19 reopened.
Simple and all legal!
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Seems to me, that at the end of the day it probably was a big stuff up. Lousy weather and only the cross strip would seem to be a pretty good reason not to go.
To dig a bit deeper, who decides the fuel uplift for QF Domestic and why wasn't Rocky the alternate, agent on ground etc.
To dig a bit deeper, who decides the fuel uplift for QF Domestic and why wasn't Rocky the alternate, agent on ground etc.
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You're right Area 7..."very simple and all legal"
Also very amateurish I would suggest, to carry out a missed approach (quite proper) followed by a divert( quite proper)
and then plonk down in a "paddock" and sit there for 3/4 hrs with no amenities for the SLF.
Seems more like a G/A operation to me than RPT!
I ask the question again...is TW a normal alternate for Qantas 737 ops?
Or was this an emergency situation, which would change the whole outlook of course.
Also very amateurish I would suggest, to carry out a missed approach (quite proper) followed by a divert( quite proper)
and then plonk down in a "paddock" and sit there for 3/4 hrs with no amenities for the SLF.
Seems more like a G/A operation to me than RPT!
I ask the question again...is TW a normal alternate for Qantas 737 ops?
Or was this an emergency situation, which would change the whole outlook of course.
Amos,
HE was there, YOU weren't.
Kindly list every delay and divertion you've ever made so we can all play "Monday Morning Quarter Back" and second guess you!
I would call YOURS the unproffestional attitude!
HE was there, YOU weren't.
Kindly list every delay and divertion you've ever made so we can all play "Monday Morning Quarter Back" and second guess you!
I would call YOURS the unproffestional attitude!
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Amos. I am having trouble at your reason. The FACTS appear to be, aircraft arrives, crew decides not to land and diverts to a suitable airport I did not know that having a five star hotel with a Roller Shuttle, was a requirement for a diversion, I thought it was just to keep your aircraft, your crew, and your pax safe. Perhaps you have never had that task?
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Sounds to me like the system worked exactly as it should.
Anyone who has flown around in countries where they have REAL weather, would recognise this as a relatively common occurence.
OK the trigger was runway repairs, but the Tamworth option was a weather enforced one.
Last time it happened to me was Wichita/Denver diverted to Rapid City about an hour North, parked up with abo9ut half a dozen others, pleasant couple of hours wandering about the terminal (Tamworth sized), quick dash back to Denver to catch a hole in the weather and the last aircraft in or out for three days, after spending another hour groping our way from the runway to the terminal.
No drama, no ructions, just the way it is.
We don't know how lucky we are with Oz wx.
Anyone who has flown around in countries where they have REAL weather, would recognise this as a relatively common occurence.
OK the trigger was runway repairs, but the Tamworth option was a weather enforced one.
Last time it happened to me was Wichita/Denver diverted to Rapid City about an hour North, parked up with abo9ut half a dozen others, pleasant couple of hours wandering about the terminal (Tamworth sized), quick dash back to Denver to catch a hole in the weather and the last aircraft in or out for three days, after spending another hour groping our way from the runway to the terminal.
No drama, no ructions, just the way it is.
We don't know how lucky we are with Oz wx.
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I gather from your previous posts that you don't actually work in the industry. Assuming it is your intention to gain employment, take some advice and don't go sending off emails to TV stations.
I gather from your previous posts that you don't actually work in the industry. Assuming it is your intention to gain employment, take some advice and don't go sending off emails to TV stations.
