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Well if Coodas data is correct thats 10,000ft or the limit of the Military CTR at tindal.
Which means due to Commonwealth Law superseding Territory Law, we have a time share agreement on our hands here:
1. When Tindal is active its Federal Airspace.
2. When its deactive its MBZ , and reverts to (Jawyn People Airspace)
So solution do your scenics when its active
To police when its not active will be hard, unless they get hold of the Tindal Radar Tapes which they wont cause it Military Restricted Info only made available for Accidents and Incidents.
regrds
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p.s. Bugga em keep flying over it . Its the only thing worth flying over in Nitmiluk. God help us if they want to do the same at Kakadu
Which means due to Commonwealth Law superseding Territory Law, we have a time share agreement on our hands here:
1. When Tindal is active its Federal Airspace.
2. When its deactive its MBZ , and reverts to (Jawyn People Airspace)
So solution do your scenics when its active
To police when its not active will be hard, unless they get hold of the Tindal Radar Tapes which they wont cause it Military Restricted Info only made available for Accidents and Incidents.
regrds
Sheep
p.s. Bugga em keep flying over it . Its the only thing worth flying over in Nitmiluk. God help us if they want to do the same at Kakadu
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Thanks Cooda:
Are there are perscribed penalties attached to the by-law?.
Have any operators or private pilots taken notice of this moronic situation or is it still Op's normal?.
Are there are perscribed penalties attached to the by-law?.
Have any operators or private pilots taken notice of this moronic situation or is it still Op's normal?.
Sheepy/R-F-G
Unfortunately my data is from that unimpeachable source, the NT News (although they have a surprisingly good record when it comes to local politics).
I've been trying to download the park plan of management (last amended October 2002) but without success.
If there is a by law, it will prescribe penalties for breaches, usually in 'units' which are easier to change than prescribed $ amounts or custodial sentences. As to whether the operators are complying, I have no idea; but would suggest the weather's only been good for ducks since the story broke.
Unfortunately my data is from that unimpeachable source, the NT News (although they have a surprisingly good record when it comes to local politics).
I've been trying to download the park plan of management (last amended October 2002) but without success.
If there is a by law, it will prescribe penalties for breaches, usually in 'units' which are easier to change than prescribed $ amounts or custodial sentences. As to whether the operators are complying, I have no idea; but would suggest the weather's only been good for ducks since the story broke.
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Actually....
Sheepy, as a matter of fact, Air Services Australia uses the Tindal radar feed as well as the military so the tapes would be available from Brisbane Centre. Darwin ATC also uses the Tindal feed for extra coverage. Not trying to encourage the NT government to pursue this option, just letting y'all know! Cheers,
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Finally got a download of the plan of management from the Government Web Site.
No mention of the new controls. Reference is made as follows in the 'actions' appended to by law 6.4.9
"Control of air space over the Park, particularly in relation to flying heights and routes of low flying aircraft will continue to be subject to agreements and pilots’ guidelines established through the Civil Aviation Safety Authority. If necessary the ability to enforce flying routes and heights over the Park under Territory Parks and
Wildlife Conservation By-laws or Section 25(2)(zc) of the Nitmiluk Act, will be investigated and acted upon. "
The intent seems clear but they don't appear to have followed their own directions regarding agreements with CASA and investigation of their powers.
No mention of the new controls. Reference is made as follows in the 'actions' appended to by law 6.4.9
"Control of air space over the Park, particularly in relation to flying heights and routes of low flying aircraft will continue to be subject to agreements and pilots’ guidelines established through the Civil Aviation Safety Authority. If necessary the ability to enforce flying routes and heights over the Park under Territory Parks and
Wildlife Conservation By-laws or Section 25(2)(zc) of the Nitmiluk Act, will be investigated and acted upon. "
The intent seems clear but they don't appear to have followed their own directions regarding agreements with CASA and investigation of their powers.
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I believe a victorious day for us all in the air.....
But what scares me is that it has been attempted it may have failed this time but what will the future hold???
They really are an ignorant bunch of no hopers aren't they. (NT Government).
The "acting chief minister" (which one, even the full time one is only acting, or pretending), wriggled and squirmed, whilst unable to answer the questions put to him on TV tonight.
The latest is they will consult with tourist association, aviation and AsA/CASA re the so called noise problems.
The "acting chief minister" (which one, even the full time one is only acting, or pretending), wriggled and squirmed, whilst unable to answer the questions put to him on TV tonight.
The latest is they will consult with tourist association, aviation and AsA/CASA re the so called noise problems.
Which is what they should have done in the first place.
Note the minister responsible for the debacle was nowhere to be seen.
This from a government that ran on a platform of openness and introduced FOI
They'll unfortunately try again, citing complaints from tourists. Its not over yet...just hope the Commonwealth stays firm on airspace control.
Note the minister responsible for the debacle was nowhere to be seen.
This from a government that ran on a platform of openness and introduced FOI
They'll unfortunately try again, citing complaints from tourists. Its not over yet...just hope the Commonwealth stays firm on airspace control.
