Two down in the far north of South Australia
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Two down in the far north of South Australia
A light plane has crashed in rural South Australia, just hours after another aircraft crashed into a remote paddock in the state’s Far North.
The light plane went down at Evelyn Downs, about 190km north of Coober Pedy in the state’s outback, on Thursday afternoon.
It is understood the pilot suffered minor injuries when the aircraft crashed while attempting to land.
It comes after another light plane crashed 400km away earlier on Thursday.
Emergency services were called to that crash site, near Mulgathing, 289km southwest of Coober Pedy, about 9.30am.
The condition of the pilot is yet to be confirmed.
Mulgathing is the site of a cattle station owned by Jumbuck Pastoral.
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The light plane went down at Evelyn Downs, about 190km north of Coober Pedy in the state’s outback, on Thursday afternoon.
It is understood the pilot suffered minor injuries when the aircraft crashed while attempting to land.
It comes after another light plane crashed 400km away earlier on Thursday.
Emergency services were called to that crash site, near Mulgathing, 289km southwest of Coober Pedy, about 9.30am.
The condition of the pilot is yet to be confirmed.
Mulgathing is the site of a cattle station owned by Jumbuck Pastoral.
DF.
Hopefully just a coincidence and not a fuel issue!
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from The Advertiser
“A young man has been killed in a plane crash in the state’s Far North on Thursday morning.
Emergency service crews – including a Royal Flying Doctor Service aircraft – responded to reports of a light plane crash at Mulgathing, about 9.30am.
The 22-year-old pilot and sole occupant, sadly died in the crash.
Major Crash Investigators and Forensic Crime Scene officers were at the scene, as well as officers from Far North Local Service Area.
SafeWork SA was notified of the death.
The incident will be investigated by the Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB), while the police prepare a report for the Coroner.
In a statement, a spokesman from the ATSB told The Advertiser an investigation was underway into the Cessna 172’s collision with terrain “during mustering operations” on Thursday morning.”
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C172 mustering. 22 yo pilot deceased.
from The Advertiser
“A young man has been killed in a plane crash in the state’s Far North on Thursday morning.
Emergency service crews – including a Royal Flying Doctor Service aircraft – responded to reports of a light plane crash at Mulgathing, about 9.30am.
The 22-year-old pilot and sole occupant, sadly died in the crash.
Major Crash Investigators and Forensic Crime Scene officers were at the scene, as well as officers from Far North Local Service Area.
SafeWork SA was notified of the death.
The incident will be investigated by the Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB), while the police prepare a report for the Coroner.
In a statement, a spokesman from the ATSB told The Advertiser an investigation was underway into the Cessna 172’s collision with terrain “during mustering operations” on Thursday morning.”
from The Advertiser
“A young man has been killed in a plane crash in the state’s Far North on Thursday morning.
Emergency service crews – including a Royal Flying Doctor Service aircraft – responded to reports of a light plane crash at Mulgathing, about 9.30am.
The 22-year-old pilot and sole occupant, sadly died in the crash.
Major Crash Investigators and Forensic Crime Scene officers were at the scene, as well as officers from Far North Local Service Area.
SafeWork SA was notified of the death.
The incident will be investigated by the Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB), while the police prepare a report for the Coroner.
In a statement, a spokesman from the ATSB told The Advertiser an investigation was underway into the Cessna 172’s collision with terrain “during mustering operations” on Thursday morning.”
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Bugger! This brings back a lot of memories for me - two members of the same family were killed in similar separate accidents during my refuelling days.
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Thankfully the benefits of low-stress stock handling techniques and GPS tracking technology are improving and hopefully finding and chasing them with aircraft and all the risk associated with it will soon become a thing of the past.
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Technology such as moovement and skykelpie are designed for mustering in the outback using GPS tracking and drones. Workplace safety and the internationally recognised "five freedoms" in animal welfare standards are incompatible with chasing them with low level aircraft.
Farms/stations are the most dangerous workplaces in Australia and I'm sure none of us ever want to read these headlines. Too many people and livestock getting killed, including a former student of mine in a mustering accident, so it hits close to home and I for one welcome any changes that improve safety for everyone, including not having to handle stressed cattle in yards. I know many station people are already adopting these technologies alongside the low-stress handling and reaping benefits in welfare, safety and profitability.
Farms/stations are the most dangerous workplaces in Australia and I'm sure none of us ever want to read these headlines. Too many people and livestock getting killed, including a former student of mine in a mustering accident, so it hits close to home and I for one welcome any changes that improve safety for everyone, including not having to handle stressed cattle in yards. I know many station people are already adopting these technologies alongside the low-stress handling and reaping benefits in welfare, safety and profitability.
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Technology such as moovement and skykelpie are designed for mustering in the outback using GPS tracking and drones. Workplace safety and the internationally recognised "five freedoms" in animal welfare standards are incompatible with chasing them with low level aircraft.
Farms/stations are the most dangerous workplaces in Australia and I'm sure none of us ever want to read these headlines. Too many people and livestock getting killed, including a former student of mine in a mustering accident, so it hits close to home and I for one welcome any changes that improve safety for everyone, including not having to handle stressed cattle in yards. I know many station people are already adopting these technologies alongside the low-stress handling and reaping benefits in welfare, safety and profitability.
Farms/stations are the most dangerous workplaces in Australia and I'm sure none of us ever want to read these headlines. Too many people and livestock getting killed, including a former student of mine in a mustering accident, so it hits close to home and I for one welcome any changes that improve safety for everyone, including not having to handle stressed cattle in yards. I know many station people are already adopting these technologies alongside the low-stress handling and reaping benefits in welfare, safety and profitability.
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Yes there is the technology for alternate ways of mustering, in the real world that is not going to happen. Demonstrating something on a 100 acre hobby farm is different to the practicality and reality of working a million acre station. Like the overtaking of Ag flying by drones, yes the technology is there but who is going to pay 20 million for a drone to do work that is currently done by the likes of an 802. There is lots of talk and the promise of things to come (the last 20 years) but ultimately it's status quo.
Maybe there needs to be more training by experienced pilots. Is it right that private pilots can still muster?
Maybe there needs to be more training by experienced pilots. Is it right that private pilots can still muster?
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Yes there is the technology for alternate ways of mustering, in the real world that is not going to happen. Demonstrating something on a 100 acre hobby farm is different to the practicality and reality of working a million acre station. Like the overtaking of Ag flying by drones, yes the technology is there but who is going to pay 20 million for a drone to do work that is currently done by the likes of an 802. There is lots of talk and the promise of things to come (the last 20 years) but ultimately it's status quo.
Maybe there needs to be more training by experienced pilots. Is it right that private pilots can still muster?
Maybe there needs to be more training by experienced pilots. Is it right that private pilots can still muster?
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Having done mustering on bikes and horseback I am fully aware of the size of some of these stations.
In the real world it already is happening. Your figure of 20 million is way, way off the mark. Try $10,000.
The technology is specifically designed for mustering in the outback. Scoff all you like but the days of chasing livestock for weeks on end with aircraft and quad bikes are on the way out. World-first live remote muster by drone at Beef Australia 2024 a sign of things to come for cattle industry - ABC News
In the real world it already is happening. Your figure of 20 million is way, way off the mark. Try $10,000.
The technology is specifically designed for mustering in the outback. Scoff all you like but the days of chasing livestock for weeks on end with aircraft and quad bikes are on the way out. World-first live remote muster by drone at Beef Australia 2024 a sign of things to come for cattle industry - ABC News
As for the licence..Hopefully nobody is sending people up mustering in a C172, spotting maybe but not mustering,., hopefully whoever is doing it only after a few years of mustering and handling stock on the ground.
CASA won't be out there checking. ATSB will come up with some platitudes in a couple of years time.
It is Safe Work Australia, the loved ones of the poor young fellow and the insurance company who they will be answering to.
CASA won't be out there checking. ATSB will come up with some platitudes in a couple of years time.
It is Safe Work Australia, the loved ones of the poor young fellow and the insurance company who they will be answering to.
Yes there is the technology for alternate ways of mustering, in the real world that is not going to happen. Demonstrating something on a 100 acre hobby farm is different to the practicality and reality of working a million acre station. Like the overtaking of Ag flying by drones, yes the technology is there but who is going to pay 20 million for a drone to do work that is currently done by the likes of an 802. There is lots of talk and the promise of things to come (the last 20 years) but ultimately it's status quo.
"We'd tried mustering goats with helicopters, we had a plane as well. It costs a lot of money,"
"What really interested me was the thermal camera — it picks up the heat signature of our stock and costs as much as a motorbike [$10,000] — for that sort of money it was worth a try."
Sounds a lot cheaper than the other means...
I'm seeing drones everywhere in a lot of industrial applications, from powerline inspections to real estate sales and a whole lot of other things that light aircraft used to have a hand in. And as mentioned above they are a lot more stock friendly and easier to control, leading to better animal health and control.
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Not sure where you get the $20 million dollar drone from, the article CP stated had the following;
Sounds a lot cheaper than the other means...
I'm seeing drones everywhere in a lot of industrial applications, from powerline inspections to real estate sales and a whole lot of other things that light aircraft used to have a hand in. And as mentioned above they are a lot more stock friendly and easier to control, leading to better animal health and control.
Sounds a lot cheaper than the other means...
I'm seeing drones everywhere in a lot of industrial applications, from powerline inspections to real estate sales and a whole lot of other things that light aircraft used to have a hand in. And as mentioned above they are a lot more stock friendly and easier to control, leading to better animal health and control.
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My 20 million reference was for an aircraft to do the same job as an 802, how many UAV's do you know have a 3+ tonne load plus carry another tonne of fuel for 10K? If you can muster with a 10K UAV then why do people pay to have fixed wing and choppers to do the job? Because it's unfeasible to use a UAV.
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Not just drones... in my long ago past, I recall being chased away while circling a mob by a very territorial wedgetail that seemed willing to take us both out in a head to head. Had to leave the area.
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